+1 (non-binding)

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:08 PM roryqi <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1, agree!
>
> Steve <[email protected]> 于2026年5月1日周五 07:02写道:
> >
> > +1 , agree to unblock the 1.11 and 1.12 releases first and revisit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 12:45 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ryan,
> > >
> > > I agree with this approach. It is perfectly aligned with the points I
> mentioned a while ago.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:49 PM Ryan Blue <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I have a quick update on LICENSE issues that are currently blocking
> 1.11 and 1.10.2. Also, sorry if you got this twice, but it looks like it
> didn't go through the first time.
> > >>
> > >> TL;DR: I think we should:
> > >>
> > >> Hold off on adding Kafka Connect to the release process
> > >> Remove the iceberg-open-api-test-fixtures-runtime Jar from releases
> > >>
> > >> The background is that over the last few weeks, we found two fairly
> large leaks that added transitive dependencies into Iceberg runtime Jars
> (fixed by #15655 and #15858). As a result, Russell added a new way to track
> and validate the dependencies included in our published artifacts. To make
> sure the new checks are correct, I’ve been going through to validate the
> LICENSE/NOTICE files against the dependency list. Unfortunately, there are
> more problems.
> > >>
> > >> The first problem is with our Kafka Connect distribution. There are
> two zip distributions, a Hive and a non-Hive version. Robin has been
> working on getting these published as part of our release process in
> #15212. The non-Hive distribution is very large and has some dependencies
> that may not need to be there, like Apache Commons Jars that aren’t used in
> Iceberg (and would be provided by KC if needed?). #16147 is a draft with
> some of the non-Hive changes. The Hive distribution has about 100 more Jars
> than non-Hive, and includes many dependencies that are almost certainly
> unnecessary, like 3 hadoop-mapreduce-* Jars. My recommendation is to hold
> off on making Kafka Connect part of releases until the license issues are
> solved.
> > >>
> > >> Another issue is the open-api module. We added this to the Java build
> to verify the REST catalog spec, but then added tests and fixtures for
> validating REST implementations. #11279 added a runtime Jar for to run a
> test service, but most PMC members I’ve talked to about it didn’t know that
> we have been publishing it — and have been since 1.7. This runtime Jar
> indiscriminately bundles far more libraries than it needs, like the cloud
> provider libs, Hadoop common, JUnit, Jetty, and others. The Jar is 200+ MB.
> My recommendation is to remove this Jar from publication to unblock
> releases.
> > >>
> > >> As a general rule, when we are considering adding a new runtime
> distribution to the project, we need to check that it is something we need
> to do (vs an easy alternative), and if it is, then minimize the
> dependencies included to only those required to run it. Once that’s done,
> we need to document the dependencies in LICENSE and NOTICE and, as of
> #15855, ensure that the bundled dependencies are tracked in a
> runtime-deps.txt file.
> > >>
> > >> I think the priority right now is to unblock the 1.11 and 1.10.2
> releases. We can do that by not releasing these artifacts. After that, I
> think we need to verify for all of these that they are needed, have minimal
> included dependencies, and then document those dependencies. For example,
> do we need a Kafka Connect Hive distribution or is the REST catalog version
> enough? Does everyone agree that this is the right path forward?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Ryan
>


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John Zhuge

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