FYI. My friend - who is an engineering manager at GitHub in the "AI" space
- saw my post and reached out to their internal team fighting with Spam. I
hope they will be able to do something about it as well.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 8:21 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> > Given what I read about the company, they will most likely ignore you.
> Some people think the company is a scam, and they seem to engage in
> unethical business practices.
>
> Yeah, but it absolutely does not mean we should give up and do nothing.
>
> Hopefully that will give at least some people a pause when they apply for
> Outlier.ai jobs. There are a few people there who seem to have a "real-ish"
> history of contribution and they actually came back after our reaction and
> apologised as they were tricked into doing it by the instructions from
> Outlier.
>
> So at least we can make rounds on awareness of the whole situation. That's
> already something. Even if they will shrug seeing all the reaction (which
> is amazing - I did not know we have so many people caring about
> maintainers).
>
> And hopefully also GitHub (I have a few friends from GitHub reacting to
> it) will take notice and will make it harder for "new" people and maybe
> even detect such spam on their own. Eventually we are - and this is just a
> beginning - in an arm's race where we will have to employ AI to battle the
> AI created by "roque" players - it's inevitable. It will happen, absolutely
> no doubts about it. So we have to strengthen our efforts to make people
> aware of those dangers and prepare to react for them.
>
> We already (and few other Apache projects) work with DoSu - and they are
> great AI "open-source friendly" company - for quite a few months their AI
> is classifying our issues and putting the right labels on them (and they do
> a great job on that) - so it's only a matter of their focus (and I spoke to
> the Devin - the creator of DoSu) on them being able to analyse those issues
> and maybe even automatically marking them as "AI spam". In fact - their
> algorithms already also learn from us marking the issues with the "AI spam"
> label. and if they enable this label and we have enough cases, their AI
> will likely automatically help with that "AI spam" to be automatically set.
>
> So ... I think being active, sharing things like that, learning and
> thinking how to battle those cases is something we all should learn how to
> do. It will be needed. This is just a canary in the mine.
>
> J.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 12:57 AM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Given what I read about the company, they will most likely ignore you.
>> Some people think the company is a scam, and they seem to engage in
>> unethical business practices.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Justin
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