Hey Kevin,

I also agree with Yufei. For PyIceberg we had a long list of issues around
the head request (#1363
<https://github.com/apache/iceberg-python/issues/1363> gives a nice
overview) to check if the table is there (and that also has just been added
to Java <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/10999>). Allowing 200 to
unblock users quickly, but implementations should adhere to the spec, and
we should be reluctant with this kind of fixes.

Kind regards,
Fokko

Op wo 18 dec 2024 om 07:56 schreef Eduard Tudenhöfner <
etudenhoef...@apache.org>:

> I agree with Yufei's observation. Changing the return code in the spec
> from 204 to 200 will just cause additional downstream work that doesn't
> seem worth it. Returning 204 makes the API also very explicit in telling
> that the request succeeded but that there's no content in the response that
> the client needs to care about.
>
> Eduard
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 10:20 PM Yufei Gu <flyrain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The distinction between 200 and 204 is subtle enough that I'm comfortable
>> using them interchangeably in this context. My main concern is that, if we
>> make this change, all clients—except for PyIceberg—will need to be updated
>> to support both 200 and 204, since a server could return either status
>> code. It might not be worth it.
>>
>> Yufei
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:52 PM Kevin Liu <kevinjq...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> I’d like to propose adding status code 200 as a valid response for HEAD
>>> requests in the Catalog REST API. Currently, the following HEAD requests
>>> return status code 204 for a successful response:
>>> * namespaceExists
>>> <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/blob/540d6a6251e31b232fe6ed2413680621454d107a/open-api/rest-catalog-open-api.yaml#L372-L402>
>>> * tableExists
>>> <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/blob/540d6a6251e31b232fe6ed2413680621454d107a/open-api/rest-catalog-open-api.yaml#L1129-L1160>
>>> * viewExists
>>> <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/blob/540d6a6251e31b232fe6ed2413680621454d107a/open-api/rest-catalog-open-api.yaml#L1691-L1712>
>>>
>>> In PyIceberg, support for status code 200 has already been implemented
>>> for table_exists
>>> <https://github.com/apache/iceberg-python/pull/1389/files#diff-3bda7391ebd8aa3dcfd6703d8d2764830b9d9c35fa854188a37d69611274bd3dR890>
>>>  and namespace_exists
>>> <https://github.com/apache/iceberg-python/pull/1434/files#diff-3bda7391ebd8aa3dcfd6703d8d2764830b9d9c35fa854188a37d69611274bd3dR882>.
>>> The motivation for this change is to enable more intuitive and
>>> user-friendly integrations with catalogs, as Fokko highlighted here
>>> <https://github.com/apache/iceberg-python/issues/1363#issuecomment-2497462825>.
>>> Standardizing this behavior in the Catalog REST spec would promote
>>> consistency across implementations and make interactions easier for users
>>> and client developers.
>>>
>>> Would love to hear your thoughts on this proposal!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kevin Liu
>>>
>>

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