Hi Ryan Yes I will update the proposal to address the concerns.
Thanks Regards JB Le mer. 27 sept. 2023 à 23:11, Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> a écrit : > JB, > > I think we're agreed that it would be great to promote the project and put > together talks to help expand the community. What isn't clear is how to > make this happen. Are you planning on updating the proposal to address the > concerns I raised or do you want someone else to pick that up? > > Ryan > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:28 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > wrote: > >> I mean that anyone interested can add it to the doc. >> I think we have different motivation and ideas. It’s great to share all >> together. >> Personally, my motivation is to promote the project (because it’s super >> interesting) and connect dots with other Apache projects. I also think it’s >> good timing to grow/expand our community. >> I will also work on the document thanks to your comment, as anyone can do >> :) >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> Le mer. 27 sept. 2023 à 00:47, Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> a écrit : >> >>> JB, >>> >>> What do you mean --- are you going to put together the proposal for how >>> this would work? Or are you saying that anyone interested in that topic >>> could add it to the doc? >>> >>> Ryan >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 12:26 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ryan, >>>> >>>> My bad: I understood in the previous discussion about the summit that >>>> we wanted something more concrete in terms of format, length, >>>> organisation, how we can set this up. >>>> >>>> Of course, no problem to take a step back, and the document is >>>> definitely where we can work all together. I'm also in the same >>>> situation as you: I'm helping using my Apache/community hat, but I >>>> included proposals from my company (Dremio) in the doc. For instance, >>>> I think it's important to "split" committees for sponsoring and track >>>> content, just to avoid "sales talk" as it's a community event. >>>> As few of us helped on summits in the past, experience and how it went >>>> are valuable. >>>> >>>> Special thank to you, Brian and Ed about the comments. >>>> >>>> I propose to work on the doc: anyone from the community can edit the >>>> doc. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Regards >>>> JB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 8:18 PM Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > To me, this proposal is getting a bit ahead of where I'm comfortable. >>>> I was expecting this to address some of the big questions about how to run >>>> an event like this from an open source community, but it seems to be >>>> assuming that the event will happen and addresses logistics. >>>> > >>>> > Here's an example of what I mean: the doc suggests the different >>>> levels of sponsors, slots at those levels, and prices. But I think the main >>>> question the community has to think through before we get there --- and >>>> what I'd expect in a proposal --- is how to ensure that such an event >>>> remains commercially neutral. Because you're asking for this to be an >>>> "official" event from the community and using its trademarks, we need to >>>> think through how we want to strike that balance. >>>> > >>>> > I'd like to see more of a proposal around: >>>> > 1. Should the Iceberg community put on an event? Clearly, we like the >>>> idea of exchanging ideas, but it goes beyond that. >>>> > 2. How would we balance the interests of different parts of the >>>> community and why should we take that approach? >>>> > >>>> > We have a lot of different companies contributing and building around >>>> Iceberg. The last thing that we want to do is give the impression that the >>>> community is in any way "pay-to-play" --- that's one of this community's >>>> distinguishing features. >>>> > >>>> > Also, I want to disclose that I'm also associated with a vendor >>>> (Tabular). With that hat on, I think we'd happily sponsor an event like >>>> this. But with my community hat on I want to make sure we plan it out and >>>> think carefully. >>>> > >>>> > Ryan >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 2:09 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi guys, >>>> >> >>>> >> Finally (sorry for the long wait :)), a first formal Iceberg Summit >>>> >> proposal doc is ready to be populated/reviewed: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uy9-qRxLtjMWJkRXsjj94Vq3VO1Mc0wGz_bnisevNh8/edit?usp=sharing >>>> >> >>>> >> Anyone can edit the document, so feel free to complete or ask >>>> >> questions via comments. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks ! >>>> >> Regards >>>> >> JB >>>> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 11:25 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>>> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > It sounds great :) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I will include a note in the proposal doc about that. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Regards >>>> >> > JB >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Le mer. 23 août 2023 à 14:14, Brian Olsen <bitsondata...@gmail.com> >>>> a écrit : >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Out of curiosity, is anyone strongly opposed to doing antics like >>>> this for summits? >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFnr63che7wYFsknFAqisURvfm96rW0Dr >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 6:58 PM Matt Topol < >>>> zotthewiz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> I don't think I'll have much time to contribute to help, but I >>>> would absolutely help if possible. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> That said, I'll definitely want to give a talk / speak at this >>>> summit when it happens :) >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 1:38 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>>> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> I'm back from vacation and I'm resuming the work on the Iceberg >>>> Summit >>>> >> >>>> proposal doc. I will share the doc asap. >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> Regards >>>> >> >>>> JB >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 4:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>>> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > Hi everyone, >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > I started a discussion on the private mailing list, and, as >>>> there are >>>> >> >>>> > no objections from the PMC members, I'm moving the thread to >>>> the dev >>>> >> >>>> > mailing list. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > I propose to organize the first Apache Iceberg Summit \o/ >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > For the format, I think the best option is a virtual event >>>> with a mix of: >>>> >> >>>> > 1. Dev community talks: architecture, roadmap, features, use >>>> in "products", ... >>>> >> >>>> > 2. User community talks: companies could present their use >>>> cases, best >>>> >> >>>> > practices, ... >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > In terms of organization: >>>> >> >>>> > 1. no objection so far from the PMC members to use Apache >>>> Iceberg >>>> >> >>>> > Summit name. If it works for everyone, I will send a message >>>> to the >>>> >> >>>> > Apache Publicity & Marketing to get their OK for the event. >>>> >> >>>> > 2. create two committees: >>>> >> >>>> > 2.1. the Sponsoring Committee gathering >>>> companies/organizations >>>> >> >>>> > wanting to sponsor the event >>>> >> >>>> > 2.2. the Program Committee gathers folks from the Iceberg >>>> community >>>> >> >>>> > (PMC/committers/contributors) to select talks. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > My company (Dremio) will “host” the event - i.e., provide >>>> funding, a >>>> >> >>>> > conference platform, sponsor logistics, speaker training, >>>> slide >>>> >> >>>> > design, etc.. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > In terms of dates, as CommunityOverCode Con NA will be in >>>> October, I >>>> >> >>>> > think January 2024 would work: it gives us time to organize >>>> smoothly, >>>> >> >>>> > promote the event, and not in a rush. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > I propose: >>>> >> >>>> > 1. to create the #summit channel on Iceberg Slack. >>>> >> >>>> > 2. I will share a preparation document with a plan proposal. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > Thoughts ? >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> > Regards >>>> >> >>>> > JB >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Ryan Blue >>>> > Tabular >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ryan Blue >>> Tabular >>> >> > > -- > Ryan Blue > Tabular >
