Hi Ryan,

My bad: I understood in the previous discussion about the summit that
we wanted something more concrete in terms of format, length,
organisation, how we can set this up.

Of course, no problem to take a step back, and the document is
definitely where we can work all together. I'm also in the same
situation as you: I'm helping using my Apache/community hat, but I
included proposals from my company (Dremio) in the doc. For instance,
I think it's important to "split" committees for sponsoring and track
content, just to avoid "sales talk" as it's a community event.
As few of us helped on summits in the past, experience and how it went
are valuable.

Special thank to you, Brian and Ed about the comments.

I propose to work on the doc: anyone from the community can edit the doc.

Thanks,
Regards
JB





On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 8:18 PM Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> wrote:
>
> To me, this proposal is getting a bit ahead of where I'm comfortable. I was 
> expecting this to address some of the big questions about how to run an event 
> like this from an open source community, but it seems to be assuming that the 
> event will happen and addresses logistics.
>
> Here's an example of what I mean: the doc suggests the different levels of 
> sponsors, slots at those levels, and prices. But I think the main question 
> the community has to think through before we get there --- and what I'd 
> expect in a proposal --- is how to ensure that such an event remains 
> commercially neutral. Because you're asking for this to be an "official" 
> event from the community and using its trademarks, we need to think through 
> how we want to strike that balance.
>
> I'd like to see more of a proposal around:
> 1. Should the Iceberg community put on an event? Clearly, we like the idea of 
> exchanging ideas, but it goes beyond that.
> 2. How would we balance the interests of different parts of the community and 
> why should we take that approach?
>
> We have a lot of different companies contributing and building around 
> Iceberg. The last thing that we want to do is give the impression that the 
> community is in any way "pay-to-play" --- that's one of this community's 
> distinguishing features.
>
> Also, I want to disclose that I'm also associated with a vendor (Tabular). 
> With that hat on, I think we'd happily sponsor an event like this. But with 
> my community hat on I want to make sure we plan it out and think carefully.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 2:09 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Finally (sorry for the long wait :)), a first formal Iceberg Summit
>> proposal doc is ready to be populated/reviewed:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uy9-qRxLtjMWJkRXsjj94Vq3VO1Mc0wGz_bnisevNh8/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Anyone can edit the document, so feel free to complete or ask
>> questions via comments.
>>
>> Thanks !
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 11:25 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It sounds great :)
>> >
>> > I will include a note in the proposal doc about that.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > JB
>> >
>> > Le mer. 23 août 2023 à 14:14, Brian Olsen <bitsondata...@gmail.com> a 
>> > écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Out of curiosity, is anyone strongly opposed to doing antics like this 
>> >> for summits?
>> >>
>> >> https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFnr63che7wYFsknFAqisURvfm96rW0Dr
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 6:58 PM Matt Topol <zotthewiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't think I'll have much time to contribute to help, but I would 
>> >>> absolutely help if possible.
>> >>>
>> >>> That said, I'll definitely want to give a talk / speak at this summit 
>> >>> when it happens :)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 1:38 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm back from vacation and I'm resuming the work on the Iceberg Summit
>> >>>> proposal doc. I will share the doc asap.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards
>> >>>> JB
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 4:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Hi everyone,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I started a discussion on the private mailing list, and, as there are
>> >>>> > no objections from the PMC members, I'm moving the thread to the dev
>> >>>> > mailing list.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I propose to organize the first Apache Iceberg Summit \o/
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > For the format, I think the best option is a virtual event with a mix 
>> >>>> > of:
>> >>>> > 1. Dev community talks: architecture, roadmap, features, use in 
>> >>>> > "products", ...
>> >>>> > 2. User community talks: companies could present their use cases, best
>> >>>> > practices, ...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > In terms of organization:
>> >>>> > 1. no objection so far from the PMC members to use Apache Iceberg
>> >>>> > Summit name. If it works for everyone, I will send a message to the
>> >>>> > Apache Publicity & Marketing to get their OK for the event.
>> >>>> >  2. create two committees:
>> >>>> >   2.1. the Sponsoring Committee gathering companies/organizations
>> >>>> > wanting to sponsor the event
>> >>>> >   2.2. the Program Committee gathers folks from the Iceberg community
>> >>>> > (PMC/committers/contributors) to select talks.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > My company (Dremio) will “host” the event - i.e., provide funding, a
>> >>>> > conference platform, sponsor logistics, speaker training, slide
>> >>>> > design, etc..
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > In terms of dates, as CommunityOverCode Con NA will be in October, I
>> >>>> > think January 2024 would work: it gives us time to organize smoothly,
>> >>>> > promote the event, and not in a rush.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I propose:
>> >>>> > 1. to create the #summit channel on Iceberg Slack.
>> >>>> > 2. I will share a preparation document with a plan proposal.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thoughts ?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Regards
>> >>>> > JB
>
>
>
> --
> Ryan Blue
> Tabular

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