David,

We could probably make it so that Snapshot instances are lazily created
from the metadata file, but that would be a fairly large change. If you're
interested, we can definitely make it happen.

I agree with Vivekanand, though. A much easier solution is to reduce the
number of snapshots in the table by expiring them. How long are you
retaining snapshots?

rb

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 8:11 PM Vivekanand Vellanki <vi...@dremio.com>
wrote:

> Just curious, what is the need to retain all those snapshots?
>
> I would assume that there is a mechanism to expire snapshots and delete
> data/manifest files that are no longer required.
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:01 PM David Wilcox <dawil...@adobe.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Iceberg Devs,
>>
>> I have a process that reads Tables stored in Iceberg and processes them,
>> many at a time. Lately, we've had problems with the scalability of our
>> process due to the number of Hadoop Filesystem objects created inside
>> Iceberg for Tables with many snapshots. These tables could have tens of
>> thousands of snapshots inside, but I only want to read the latest snapshot.
>> Inside the Hadoop Filesystem creation code that's called for every
>> snapshot, there are process-level locks that end up locking up my whole
>> process.
>>
>> Inside TableMetadataParser, it looks like we read in every snapshot even
>> though the reader likely only wants one snapshot. This loop is what's
>> responsible for locking up my process.
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/iceberg/blob/330f1520ce497153f7a6e9a80a22035ff9f6aa32/core/src/main/java/org/apache/iceberg/TableMetadataParser.java#L320
>>
>> I noticed that my process does not care about the whole snapshot list. My
>> process only is interested in a particular snapshot -- just one of them.
>> I'm interested in making a contribution so that the entire snapshot list is
>> lazily calculated inside of TableMetadata where it's actually used. So, we
>> would not create the Snapshot itself in TableMetadataParser, but instead
>> likely would pass a SnapshotCreator in that could know how to create
>> snapshots. We would pass all of the SnapshotCreators into TableMetadata
>> which would create snapshots when needed.
>>
>> Would you be amenable to such a change? I want to make sure that you
>> think that this sounds like something you would accept before I spend time
>> coding it up.
>>
>> Any other thoughts on this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David Wilcox
>>
>

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Ryan Blue
Software Engineer
Netflix

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