Hi Alan,

I committed HIVE-4145, created an HCatalog component on JIRA, and
updated the asf-authorization-template to give the HCatalog committers
karma on the hcatalog subdirectory. At this point I think everything should
be ready to go. Let me know if you run into any problems.

Thanks.

Carl

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:

> Proposed changes look good to me.  And you don't need an infra ticket to
> grant karma.  Since you're Hive VP you can do it.  See
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#SVNaccess
>
> Alan.
>
> On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Carl Steinbach wrote:
>
> > Hi Alan,
> >
> > I submitted a patch that creates the hcatalog directory and makes some
> other necessary
> > changes here:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-4145
> >
> > Once this is committed I will contact ASFINFRA and ask them to grant the
> HCatalog
> > committers karma.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> > Alright, I've gotten some feedback from Brock around the JIRA stuff and
> Carl in a live conversation expressed his desire to move hcat into the Hive
> namespace sooner rather than later.  So the proposal is that we'd move the
> code to org.apache.hive.hcatalog, though we would create shell classes and
> interfaces in org.apache.hcatalog for all public classes and interfaces so
> that it will be backward compatible.  I'm fine with doing this now.
> >
> > So, let's get started.  Carl, could you create an hcatalog directory
> under trunk/hive and grant the listed hcat committers karma on it?  Then
> I'll get started on moving the actual code.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Brock Noland wrote:
> >
> > > Looks good from my perspective and I glad to see this moving forward.
> > >
> > > Regarding #4 (JIRA)
> > >
> > > "I don't know if there's a way to upload existing JIRAs into Hive's
> JIRA,
> > > but I think it would be better to leave them where they are."
> > >
> > > JIRA has a bulk move feature, but I am curious as why we would leave
> them
> > > under the old project? There might be good reason to orphan them, but
> my
> > > first thought is that it would be nice to have them under the HIVE
> project
> > > simply for search purposes.
> > >
> > > Brock
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Alright, our vote has passed, it's time to get on with merging
> HCatalog
> > >> into Hive.  Here's the things I can think of we need to deal with.
>  Please
> > >> add additional issues I've missed:
> > >>
> > >> 1) Moving the code
> > >> 2) Dealing with domain names in the code
> > >> 3) The mailing lists
> > >> 4) The JIRA
> > >> 5) The website
> > >> 6) Committer rights
> > >> 7) Make a proposal for how HCat is released going forward
> > >> 8) Publish an FAQ
> > >>
> > >> Proposals for how we handle these:
> > >> Below I propose an approach for how to handle each of these.  Feedback
> > >> welcome.
> > >>
> > >> 1) Moving the code
> > >> I propose that HCat move into a subdirectory of Hive.  This fits
> nicely
> > >> into Hive's structure since it already has metastore, ql, etc.  We'd
> just
> > >> add 'hcatalog' as a new directory.  This directory would contain
> hcatalog
> > >> as it is today.  It does not follow Hive's standard build model so
> we'd
> > >> need to do some work to make it so that building Hive also builds
> HCat, but
> > >> this should be minimal.
> > >>
> > >> 2) Dealing with domain names
> > >> HCat code currently is under org.apache.hcatalog.  Do we want to
> change
> > >> it?  In time we probably should change it to match the rest of Hive
> > >> (org.apache.hadoop.hive.hcatalog).  We need to do this in a backward
> > >> compatible way.  I propose we leave it as is for now and if we decide
> to in
> > >> the future we can move the actual code to
> org.apache.hadoop.hive.hcatalog
> > >> and create shell classes under org.apache.hcatalog.
> > >>
> > >> 3) The mailing lists
> > >> Given that our goal is to merge the projects and not create a
> subproject
> > >> we should merge the mailing lists rather than keep hcat specific
> lists.  We
> > >> can ask infra to remove hcatalog-*@incubator.apache.org and forward
> any
> > >> new mail to the appropriate Hive lists.  We need to find out if they
> can
> > >> auto-subscribe people from the hcat lists to the hive lists.  Given
> that
> > >> traffic on the Hive lists is an order of magnitude higher we should
> warn
> > >> people before we auto-subscribe them and allow them a chance to get
> off.
> > >>
> > >> 4) JIRA
> > >> We can create an hcatalog component in Hive's JIRA.  All new HCat
> issues
> > >> could be filed there.  I don't know if there's a way to upload
> existing
> > >> JIRAs into Hive's JIRA, but I think it would be better to leave them
> where
> > >> they are.  We should see if infra can turn off the ability to create
> new
> > >> JIRAs in hcatalog.
> > >>
> > >> 5) Website
> > >> We will need to integrate HCatalog's website with Hive's.  This
> should be
> > >> easy except for the documentation.  HCat uses forrest for docs, Hive
> uses
> > >> wiki.  We will need to put links under 'Documentation' for older
> versions
> > >> of HCat docs so users can find them.  As far as how docs are handled
> for
> > >> the next version of HCatalog, I think that depends on the answer to
> > >> question 7 (next release of HCat), but I propose that HCat needs to
> conform
> > >> to the way Hive does docs on wiki.  Though I would strongly encourage
> the
> > >> HCat docs to be version specific (that is, have a set of wiki pages
> for
> > >> each version).  incubator.apache.org/hcatalog should be changed to
> > >> forward to hive.apache.org.
> > >>
> > >> 6) Committer rights
> > >> Carl will need to set up committer rights for all the new HCat
> committers.
> > >> Based on our discussion of making active HCat committers Hive
> submodule
> > >> committers this would add the following set:  Alan, Sushanth, Francis,
> > >> Daniel, Vandana, Travis, and Mithun.  Ashutosh and Paul are already
> Hive
> > >> committers, and neither Devaraj nor Mac have been active in HCat in
> over a
> > >> year.
> > >>
> > >> 7) Future releases
> > >> We need to discuss how future releases will happen, as I think this
> will
> > >> help developers and users know how to respond to the merge.  I
> propose that
> > >> HCat will simply become part of future Hive releases.  Thus Hive 0.11
> (or
> > >> whatever the next major release is) will include HCatalog.  If there
> are
> > >> issues found we may need to make HCatalog 0.5.x releases from Hive,
> which
> > >> should be fine.  But I propose there would not be an HCat 0.6.  To be
> clear
> > >> I am not proposing that HCat functionality would be subsumed into Hive
> > >> jars.  Just that the existing hcat jars would become part of Hive's
> release.
> > >>
> > >> 8) Communicate all of this
> > >> We should put up an FAQ page that has this information, as well as
> tracks
> > >> our progress while we work on getting these things done.
> > >>
> > >> Alan.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Apache MRUnit - Unit testing MapReduce -
> http://incubator.apache.org/mrunit/
> >
> >
>
>

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