> On Jul 4, 2025, at 2:07 PM, James Daugherty
> <jdaughe...@jdresources.net.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> @Dave - We discussed this topic in the past weekly developer meeting [1].
> We've copied the release artifacts to the incubator location & moved dev
> artifacts to the incubator location.
Thank you.
>
> @Paul / @Soren, The old artifacts are still under the previous location
> until I can get the download links on the website working. This link
> currently works:
> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/grails/core/7.0.0-M4/sources/apache-grails-7.0.0-M4-incubating-src.zip?action=download
>
> After the move, I'm assuming the link should change to:
> https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/incubator/grails/core/7.0.0-M4/sources/apache-grails-7.0.0-M4-incubating-src.zip?action=download
>
> But this link doesn't work. Does the `incubator` not need to exist in the
> path? If we remove the original location would it start working with the
> new location?
I just tried the link that failed for you and it worked for me directly from
the email.
Best,
Dave
>
> -James
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/wsxlhdh7qdq1vt9p46x941ohj1obtl8q
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:17 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2025, at 5:28 PM, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> We (Groovy as sponsors/mentors) are following the general Incubator
>>> procedures but updating as needed for Groovy being the sponsor:
>>>
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html
>>>
>>> That document has placeholders in some places, e.g. for disclaimer
>> wording
>>> it has
>>>> Apache Podling-Name is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
>>> Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the name of Apache TLP sponsor.
>>>
>>> So we advised Grails to put "Apache Groovy" in there in place of "the
>> name
>>> of Apache TLP sponsor".
>>>
>>> Other things are hard-coded as per the typical incubator setup, e.g.
>>> sending certain emails to private@incubator which we adapt to
>>> private@groovy. This isn't a criticism of that document, it is
>> afterall, an
>>> incubator policy document accounting for the usual case of incubator as
>>> sponsor. But where it is an obvious change of incubator => groovy in that
>>> document, that is what we do.
>>>
>>> With regard to moving releases under incubator, for grails, would it
>>> instead be under groovy since that is where the mentors have access to?
>>> Does that sound right to you?
>>
>> That would be ok with ASF Distribution Policy, but the Incubator Clutch
>> Analysis available here: https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/grails.html
>> and here: https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ may not be accurate.
>>
>> And you’re making me think about another edge case in my VP, Tooling role
>> with the work I’m supervising with the new Apache Trusted Releases platform.
>>
>> So for consistency putting the release in incubator makes my life simpler.
>> (I’m also the last person to do significant work on the clutch analysis.)
>>
>> Best,
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 4:11 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was confused about the location of the second vote due to the
>>>> sponsorship of Groovy. Such arrangement is rare.
>>>>
>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/grails/ is still a problem to be fixed.
>>>> Non-PMCs should not have top-level positioning in downloads and you must
>>>> move the release to be under the incubator.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On 2025/06/20 18:02:03 Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I noticed grails here: https://downloads.apache.org/grails/
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. You voted on two projects at once.
>>>>> 2. You did not request a second round of votes on
>>>> gene...@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> 3. You have misplaced your directories in
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/. These must be inside the incubator
>>>> directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please:
>>>>> Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/grails/ to
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/grails/.
>>>>> Remove the release from
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ (you can move them
>>>> back to dist/dev/incubator/grails/.)
>>>>> Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ to
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/grails/.
>>>>> Continue with your second round of votes on
>> gene...@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Dave
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