Hi Everyone, @Dave - We discussed this topic in the past weekly developer meeting [1]. We've copied the release artifacts to the incubator location & moved dev artifacts to the incubator location.
@Paul / @Soren, The old artifacts are still under the previous location until I can get the download links on the website working. This link currently works: https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/grails/core/7.0.0-M4/sources/apache-grails-7.0.0-M4-incubating-src.zip?action=download After the move, I'm assuming the link should change to: https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/incubator/grails/core/7.0.0-M4/sources/apache-grails-7.0.0-M4-incubating-src.zip?action=download But this link doesn't work. Does the `incubator` not need to exist in the path? If we remove the original location would it start working with the new location? -James [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/wsxlhdh7qdq1vt9p46x941ohj1obtl8q On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:17 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > On Jun 20, 2025, at 5:28 PM, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote: > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > We (Groovy as sponsors/mentors) are following the general Incubator > > procedures but updating as needed for Groovy being the sponsor: > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html > > > > That document has placeholders in some places, e.g. for disclaimer > wording > > it has > >> Apache Podling-Name is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache > > Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the name of Apache TLP sponsor. > > > > So we advised Grails to put "Apache Groovy" in there in place of "the > name > > of Apache TLP sponsor". > > > > Other things are hard-coded as per the typical incubator setup, e.g. > > sending certain emails to private@incubator which we adapt to > > private@groovy. This isn't a criticism of that document, it is > afterall, an > > incubator policy document accounting for the usual case of incubator as > > sponsor. But where it is an obvious change of incubator => groovy in that > > document, that is what we do. > > > > With regard to moving releases under incubator, for grails, would it > > instead be under groovy since that is where the mentors have access to? > > Does that sound right to you? > > That would be ok with ASF Distribution Policy, but the Incubator Clutch > Analysis available here: https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/grails.html > and here: https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ may not be accurate. > > And you’re making me think about another edge case in my VP, Tooling role > with the work I’m supervising with the new Apache Trusted Releases platform. > > So for consistency putting the release in incubator makes my life simpler. > (I’m also the last person to do significant work on the clutch analysis.) > > Best, > Dave > > > > > Cheers, Paul. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 4:11 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> I was confused about the location of the second vote due to the > >> sponsorship of Groovy. Such arrangement is rare. > >> > >> https://downloads.apache.org/grails/ is still a problem to be fixed. > >> Non-PMCs should not have top-level positioning in downloads and you must > >> move the release to be under the incubator. > >> > >> Best, > >> Dave > >> > >> On 2025/06/20 18:02:03 Dave Fisher wrote: > >>> Hi - > >>> > >>> Today I noticed grails here: https://downloads.apache.org/grails/ > >>> > >>> 1. You voted on two projects at once. > >>> 2. You did not request a second round of votes on > >> gene...@incubator.apache.org > >>> 3. You have misplaced your directories in > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/. These must be inside the incubator > >> directory. > >>> > >>> Please: > >>> Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/grails/ to > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/grails/. > >>> Remove the release from > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ (you can move them > >> back to dist/dev/incubator/grails/.) > >>> Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ to > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/grails/. > >>> Continue with your second round of votes on > gene...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> Dave > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > >
