Good summary Søren. Let me add my 5 Gents to maybe advance the topic
further:
1. Since I think that this is the easiest: Anybody who is against
taking funds out of FOG (Friends of Groovy) for this in principle
should speak up now or 4ever hold his peace G-)
2. As a ballpark number / discussion point I would suggest $250 to $500
for the award - what do you gals & guys think ? Too high ? Too low ?
3. My suggestion would be to award it for work done recently (i.e. not
life-time), in part for the practical reason that I think it would
be easier to agree on a person here, and it would be faster to get
this whole thing off the ground... (Disclaimer: I have argued for
non-lifetime before based on additional reasons)
4. One important open question, as you point out, is: Who should be
allowed to vote ? PMC (maybe too restrictive) ? FOG contributors ?
Everyone who has been on the dev or user mailing list for a year ?
Note: Letting everyone vote would worry me, since I have personally
witnessed votes like that being manipulated/rigged (all in the name
of "well, democracy has spoken..."), by someone who has 50 Facebook
friends...
5. Shall the vote be "most votes wins", or a decision between the e.g.
two people with the highest number of votes, or... ?
6. Shall the vote be changeable (i.e. everybody sees how many votes
everybody currently has, and the votes can be shifted, until the
voting is over) ?
7. Is the voting going to be informal e.g. through posting on the
mailing list, or would we want to use a web site/service for this
(which ? requires more effort...) ?
8. Shall the award be virtual, or tied to a physical manifestation ? If
physical, I would suggest something like a mug, since it is
something you can put on your desk, or actually use if you so choose
(I have experience designing things and would volunteer to design
(the print on) such a mug). Other suggestions of course welcome G-)
(GR8Conf could work, if people would nominate some Groovy conbtributors
(in the broader sense) within the next week, and voting could then be
open for one week after that...)
Cheers,
mg
On 09/05/2019 17:12, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
Let me see, if I can summarize the story (from over 50 mails)
There is a general +1 (14ish) right now on making a Groovy Award, and
a majority of people who are in favor of the "Groovy Star" award name,
both because it has a nice ring to it, because it can be associated
with the Groovy logo, and because it sounds a bit like Java Rockstars.
There also seems to be a general consensus that it can be given to
core comitters, but also to people who contribute to
frameworks/libraries in the ecosystem, and to people who in other ways
(community work, conference organizers etc) makes an impact for the
community.
There is a discussion, wether it should be awarded as an award for a
given year vs a lifetime archivement award. This is still something
that needs to be agreed uppon.
Besides being an honor to receive an award, it has also been suggested
that there could be a monitary reward, to be regcognized by becoming a
"comitter" or PMC member. If it is monetary the money could come from
Friends of Groovy, if that can be agreed uppon.
Awards could be announced at Groovy related conferences (GR8Conf,
Greach, devnexus2gm or others)
There need to be a discussion on how the nominees are appointed, and
who decides on who will get the award.
From a personal point of view (and from the view of being a conference
organizer) I would love to be able to hand out an award like this. But
it seems that we're too late for GR8Conf at the end of this month.
I hope I have captured most of the discussion bullets, otherwise feel
free to correct me.
Have a gr8 day
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius
Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
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On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 23:44, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au
<mailto:pa...@asert.com.au>> wrote:
Yes, I think that is the way to go. The Apache Groovy project
recognizes contributors to the project through making them
committers and/or PMC members. The Groovy Star awards were always
proposed to be about the whole community. That sits better with
Friends-of-Groovy in my mind which also has a whole community brief.
Cheers, Paul.
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:55 AM Milles, Eric (TR Tech, Content &
Ops) <eric.mil...@thomsonreuters.com
<mailto:eric.mil...@thomsonreuters.com>> wrote:
Can the open collective team recognize significant
achievements in the community and make awards? You could
announce one award per major conference (Gr8conf, Greach,
Whatever2gm).
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*From:* Søren Berg Glasius <soe...@glasius.dk
<mailto:soe...@glasius.dk>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2019 9:50 AM
*To:* dev@groovy.apache.org <mailto:dev@groovy.apache.org>
*Cc:* Jochen Theodorou
*Subject:* Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback
How can we revive this discussion? I still think it's relevant.
:)
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius
Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 at 17:40, MG <mg...@arscreat.com
<mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
...and, of course, the
Apache Groovy Community Lifetime Achievement Award
;-)
Like the name, +1 (again) on tying the award to a specific
year, don't
think that mixing commit access with the award makes sense
(as in
programming: Keep things single purpose - nobdy wants to
be fat, be it
class or human ;-) )
On 02.03.2018 10:11, Jochen Theodorou wrote:
> hi all,
>
> I was thinking a while about all this and all the
problems involved
> here and I want to show an alternative.
>
> Apache Groovy Community Award
>
> Name surely to be changed. The idea is to give a nominal
award for
> what they did in the past. Somebody getting this award
will get this
> for a reason, which is to be stated.
>
> Since it is no title like "champion" and since we can
give a
> description of the reasons the award will be always
specific, it is
> not a title you carry around your lifetime and all of
that. Maybe a
> person could be awarded multiple times, but that is then
to decide.
> That means there will be no discussions about revoking the
> championship, or for how long this is granted. Also I
think the award
> leaves better space for a good naming. Also we can give
commit access
> along with it, which may or may not be taken, but then
includes the
> official ASF way of recognizing people.
>
> what do you guys think?
>
> bye Jochen
>
