Data binding & data mapping are definitely related. Binding is transforming one source format to another. I.e. form url encoding being parsed and populating properties on a class file. It only deals with copying data from a source to a target.
I would still view them separately since data mapping goes a step further: it involves mapping to a database. It is more than just format parsing. For example, how to map the BigDecimal on a groovy object to a valid database type. Other examples include: database indexes, database constraints, how tables are created (i.e. is there a join table that the application doesn't see?), etc. datastore is a generic term for the mechanism used to implement the data mapping. i.e. hibernate, mongodb, etc. On a side note, we often see "gorm" used in the data-mapping project, but there are now nosql implementations like mongodb too. It's not really a relational mapping anymore. That's why we've changed the name to grails-data in the artifacts. This matches other project conventions such as spring-data & micronaut-data. Long term, we may want to even 'gorm' from being used and simply refer to it as 'grails-data' On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 12:07 PM Mattias Reichel <mattias.reic...@gmail.com> wrote: > Excuse a non-native english speaker, should these be treated the same or > differently? > databinding > datamapping > datastore > > Den fre 21 mars 2025 kl 16:38 skrev James Daugherty > <jdaughe...@jdresources.net.invalid>: > > > I've updated the pull request for the following: > > > > artifactId: grails-gradle-console -> grails-console > > artifactId: grails-gradle-model changed package from model -> gradle > > artifactId: grails-security-spring -> grails-spring-security > > artifactId: grails-rest-responder -> grails-rest-transforms > > groupId: event -> events > > groupId: view -> views > > > > This assumes a plural form to match existing grails convention in package > > names & groupids. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:11 AM James Daugherty < > > jdaughe...@jdresources.net> > > wrote: > > > > > Thank you. I'd rather we hyphenate all words in the artifact id. It's > > > easier to read. Also, we got rid of the additional prefixes so we'd > only > > > ever have the format `grails-X`. If we had prefixes to group them > > > together, I'd agree, but since we don't, why not make it easier to > read? > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:02 AM Mattias Reichel < > > > mattias.reic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > Did you mean to say artifact ids instead of groupIds? > > >> > > >> Yes, sorry for the confusion, I meant artifactIds. > > >> > > >> Den fre 21 mars 2025 kl 15:55 skrev James Daugherty > > >> <jdaughe...@jdresources.net.invalid>: > > >> > > >> > 1. Did you mean to say artifact ids instead of groupIds? > > >> > 2. We should decide on noun vs plural forms. I'm personally a fan > of > > >> the > > >> > noun approach. What are other people's thoughts? > > >> > 3. I named it model because all that library does is expose the > > >> classpath. > > >> > I could see it being used for other purposes. I'm fine moving it to > > >> > .gradle though. > > >> > > > >> > I think everyone has mentioned this, but I guess we should change it > > >> back > > >> > to "spring-security" instead of "security-spring" based on > Gianluca's > > >> > follow-up comments & James F's. > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 4:08 AM Mattias Reichel < > > >> mattias.reic...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > We are getting there! > > >> > > > > >> > > A couple of more thoughts and suggestions on the last iteration ( > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://github.com/jdaugherty/grails-core/blob/3b4da92e339b7b688011e4a8ffc3c2aaea723680/RENAME.md?plain=1 > > >> > > ): > > >> > > > > >> > > 1. As we are working with groupings, I think we should consider > > >> > collapsing > > >> > > some group parts in the groupIds as they really are the same group > > >> part > > >> > and > > >> > > not groups of their own: > > >> > > spring-boot -> springboot > > >> > > url-mappings -> urlmappings > > >> > > data-mapping -> datamapping > > >> > > testing-support -> testingsupport > > >> > > domain-class -> domainclass > > >> > > > > >> > > 2. We are using the singular form of the groups (that are nouns) > for > > >> > every > > >> > > groupId except codecs and profiles. Should we be consistent here: > > >> > > org.apache.grails.codecs:grails-codecs-core -> > > >> > > org.apache.grails.codec:grails-codecs-core > > >> > > org.apache.grails.profiles:web -> org.apache.grails.profile:web > > >> > > > > >> > > Another way would be to do the plural form everywhere: > > >> > > org.apache.grails.event -> org.apache.grails.events > > >> > > org.apache.grails.view -> org.apache.grails.views > > >> > > > > >> > > 3. The org.apache.grails.model groupId feels a bit strange to me > as > > >> it is > > >> > > very generic. > > >> > > org.apache.grails.model:grails-gradle-model -> > > >> > > org.apache.grails.gradle:grails-gradle-model > > >> > > > > >> > > /Mattias > > >> > > > > >> > > Den fre 21 mars 2025 kl 07:51 skrev Gianluca Sartori < > > >> > g.sart...@gmail.com > > >> > > >: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Okay, my proposal was based on the meaning of “security” as a > > group > > >> > > rather > > >> > > > than referencing to a specific library (remaining open to other > > >> > security > > >> > > > libraries) but I can see your concerns. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > It may be better not to reverse the spring security name. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > It could be “grails-security-spring-security” but I’m not sure I > > >> like > > >> > it > > >> > > > that much. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Gianluca > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 at 00:17, James Fredley < > > >> jamesfred...@apache.org> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I reviewed the > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://github.com/jdaugherty/grails-core/blob/3b4da92e339b7b688011e4a8ffc3c2aaea723680/RENAME.md?plain=1 > > >> > > > > iteration and put my approval on the PR. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I am still a little concerned with the artifacts being > > >> > security-spring > > >> > > > and > > >> > > > > the project name being spring-security. Matching the upstream > > >> project > > >> > > > seems > > >> > > > > like the best idea > > >> > https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-security. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On 2025/03/20 17:18:45 James Daugherty wrote: > > >> > > > > > I tried to update the PR description to summarize some of > the > > >> > > > highlights > > >> > > > > of > > >> > > > > > this thread. If I missed anything, please speak up. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I also realized the grails-console had a subpackage, so I > > >> removed > > >> > > that > > >> > > > > > subpackage for consistency. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/14080 > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > -James > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:58 PM James Daugherty < > > >> > > > > jdaughe...@jdresources.net> > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > @Gianluca, were you ok with the latest draft? > > >> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/14080 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:56 PM Gianluca Sartori < > > >> > > > g.sart...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Okay sounds good > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> Gianluca > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 17:52, James Daugherty > > >> > > > > > >> <jdaughe...@jdresources.net.invalid> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > I don't think we should rename any repositories until > > >> builds > > >> > are > > >> > > > > fully > > >> > > > > > >> > working. It will delay the 7 release process > otherwise. > > >> The > > >> > > goal > > >> > > > > of > > >> > > > > > >> this > > >> > > > > > >> > discussion is specific to the groupid / artifactid. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:46 PM Gianluca Sartori < > > >> > > > > g.sart...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Yes, I am just talking about the repository name, not > > the > > >> > > > groupId > > >> > > > > or > > >> > > > > > >> > > artifactId. > > >> > > > > > >> > > The repository name can be any name available in our > > Git > > >> > > > > namespace, it > > >> > > > > > >> > will > > >> > > > > > >> > > not conflict or influence any other repository name > on > > >> any > > >> > > other > > >> > > > > > >> GitHub > > >> > > > > > >> > > namespace. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Gianluca > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >
