I would love to see Grails 7 getting in touch with its origins to pave
its legacy.
The original green should get back, with the complementary orange links,
supporting the new rounded logo.

On the selling proposition, I would give the following priorities:

*1. Enterprise grade*
    - 20 years of evolution and refinement
    - Security first, built on top of giants: Spring Framework 6, Hibernate
6, Jakarta EE 10, Java 21 (And we don't use Log4J... XD just kidding)
    - Deploy on-premises and on the cloud with solid performances

*2. Easy to learn*
    - Less code, more results with the Apache Groovy programming language
    - Quick onboarding of new developers
    - Access to the complete documentation

*3. Made to last*
    - Leverage the huge availability of Java libraries and tools
    - Updated to the latest web technologies
    - Used by "BIG NAMES HERE IF WE CAN"


Gianluca Sartori

On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 at 18:33, James Fredley <jamesfred...@apache.org> wrote:

> - What do we want new visitors to immediately understand about the
> framework?
>
> Apache Grail is a convention over configuration, Don’t Repeat Yourself
> (DRY), full stack framework similar to Rails and Django, built on the
> enterprise foundation of Spring Boot and Hibernate with a nearly two decade
> history.
>
> It harnesses the power of the Apache Groovy language and the extensive use
> of Domain Specific Languages (DSLs) in the Java ecosystem.
>
> - What do you think Grails’ unique selling propositions are today? - What
> makes it stand out in 2025?
>
> Rapid application development
> convention over configuration
> scaffolding
> solid performance
> enterprise maturity
> strong integration with Java ecosystems, especially Spring Boot/Spring
> Framework and Jakarta EE 10
> "framework of frameworks," allowing the use of Spring and Hibernate
> frameworks
>
> - Most crucially... what color(s) should Grails.org use in 2025?
>
> I like both the green and the orange designs with the blue header.  The
> green somewhat associates it with https://spring.io/ and the historical
> green from
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170630001932/http://www.grails.org/
>
> I do like the blue usage on https://start.grails.org/ with the orange
> logo at the bottom.
>
> James
>
> On 2025/03/19 16:57:43 James Fredley wrote:
> > Posting here on behalf of Martyn Duffy:
> >
> > Hey everyone, I wanted to share an initial take on a new Grails landing
> page. Would love your feedback on how to best capture the essence of Grails:
> >
> > What do we want new visitors to immediately understand about the
> framework?
> >
> > What do you think Grails’ unique selling propositions are today?
> >
> > What makes it stand out in 2025?
> >
> > Most crucially... what color(s) should Grails.org use in 2025?
> >
> > See Green vs Orange Mockups:
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XV-dwssnRcN1O5lxzD4Y9nbd2H4ORcuZ?usp=sharing
> >
> > Would appreciate any thoughts - especially from those who’ve been
> building with Grails for a while - thanks!
> >
> >
>

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