I don't like the idea of having two properties file as it will be confusing
to both new and existing users.

Even if we decide to go with two files, I think we should strive to keep
things simpler for new users, say by have a "old-defaults.properties" file
which the existing users can use.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Michael Stolz <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not sure I want to do wholesale defaults revision.
>
> Yes this is a release that cannot be done in a rolling fashion, but it is
> not (yet) a release that requires that pre-existing users to change their
> settings in general to keep their current configuration.
>
> I think it would be simple enough to supply a "recommended.properties" file
> that sets things the way we now like them without actually changing the
> hard-coded defaults.
>
> I view the network-partition-detection property as a special case because
> of its affect on diskstores which are automatically created if you use the
> recommended serialization mechanism (pdx).
>
> On the diskstore topic, if we know that the disk stores are wrong at
> startup, why don't we just fix them? Why do we require user intervention?
>
>
> --
> Mike Stolz
> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
> Mobile: 631-835-4771
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Real Wes Williams <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > What’s the level of concern here about members getting kicked out
> > prematurely depending on the newly proposed default settings?  For
> > instance, if the default suspect notification is 3 seconds and they are
> > running in AWS or a mildly unpredictable network environment, a member
> > could be kicked out.  What would be considered “safe” settings?
> >
> > > On Jan 7, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Bruce Schuchardt <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Another thing that's been discussed for a long time is turning on
> > network-partition-detection by default.   It is a major problem for
> someone
> > if a partition occurs and they are using persistence.  The disk-stores on
> > all but one of the partitions have to be deleted and revoked.
> >
> >
>

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