> That said, I don't think the qualified-name approach itself is the issue.
> flink-extended [1] is an existing, community-sanctioned precedent: it

The fact that another TLP does something doesn't mean it's the proper way
to do. There is also datafusion-contrib [1] that may have similar naming
issue.

[1] https://github.com/datafusion-contrib

You can consider the alternatives I suggested above. I'll discuss these
cases with VP Brand to see if we can produce some policies or
explanations to guide this kind of usage.

Best,
tison.


Yang Wang <[email protected]> 于2026年7月23日周四 08:55写道:

> Hi tison,
>
> Thanks for flagging the trademark angle — the caution is well taken, and I
> agree a bare "fluss" org name wouldn't work.
>
> That said, I don't think the qualified-name approach itself is the issue.
> flink-extended [1] is an existing, community-sanctioned precedent: it
> describes itself as "a neutral place to host the code of ecosystem projects
> that extend the capability of the Apache Flink," doing essentially what
> we're proposing. So a qualified name like "fluss-extended" seems already
> proven to be legitimate and within community norms — with PMC approval
> being the key piece.
>
> So my reading is that the main thing we need here is the PMC's buy-in,
> rather than rethinking the model itself. Of course, happy to hear if others
> see it differently.
>
> Thanks,
> Yang
>
> [1] https://github.com/flink-extended
>
> tison <[email protected]> 于2026年7月20日周一 16:37写道:
>
> > I remember that third-party contrib organizations shall not use the same
> > name of "fluss", which is a documented trademark policy in [1]
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/guide
> >
> > This is why SkyWalking's contrib org is called SkyAPM [2] and why the
> > ResillenceDB shuts down their previous orgs [3].
> >
> > [2] https://github.com/SkyAPM
> > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdx2rz2byfxtr0ftqy1tcmvl47gphcro
> >
> > So, for the situation we are here, I suggest:
> >
> > 1. We may directly create new repos for contrib code. This would handle
> the
> > IP clearance issue beforehand as well.
> > 2. Or, if there is a reason we must not hold the code within the ASF,
> use a
> > distinguished name for the org.
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > Muhammet Orazov via dev <[email protected]> 于2026年7月20日周一 16:01写道:
> >
> > > Hello Yang,
> > >
> > > Thanks taking of this!
> > >
> > > All looks fine from my side, +1.
> > >
> > > We'd like to start with Fluss K8s operator on this organization, but
> > > definitely donate back to ASF on later stages.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Muhammet Orazov
> > >
> >
>

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