+1 for the first option as well Best, Piotrek
śr., 7 lut 2024 o 16:48 Matthias Pohl <matthias.p...@aiven.io.invalid> napisał(a): > +1 for option 1 since it's a reasonable temporary workaround > > Moving to GitHub discussions would either mean moving the current FLIP > collection or having the FLIPs in two locations. Both options do not seem > to be optimal. Another concern I had was that GitHub Discussions wouldn't > allow integrating diagrams that easily. But it looks like they support > Mermaid [1] for diagrams. > > One flaw of the GoogleDocs approach is, though, that we have to rely on > diagrams being provided as PNG/JPG/SVG rather than draw.io diagrams. > draw.io > is more tightly integrated with the Confluence wiki which allows > editing/updating diagrams in the wiki rather than using some external tool. > Google Draw is also not that convenient to use in my opinion. Anyway, > that's a minor issue, I guess. > > Matthias > > [1] > > https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/writing-on-github/working-with-advanced-formatting/creating-diagrams > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 3:30 PM Lincoln Lee <lincoln.8...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks Martijn moving this forward! > > > > +1 for the first solution, because as of now it looks like this is a > > temporary solution and we're still looking forward to the improvement by > > ASF Infra, when the access is ok for contributors, we can back to the > > current workflow. > > > > For solution 2, one visible downside is that it becomes inconvenient to > > look for flips (unless we permanently switch to github discussion). > > > > Looking forward to hearing more thoughts. > > > > Best, > > Lincoln Lee > > > > > > Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> 于2024年2月7日周三 21:51写道: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > ASF Infra has confirmed to me that only ASF committers can access the > > > ASF Confluence site since a recent change. One of the results of this > > > decision is that users can't signup and access Confluence, so only > > > committers+ can create FLIPs. > > > > > > ASF Infra hopes to improve this situation when they move to the Cloud > > > shortly (as in: some months), but they haven't committed on an actual > > > date. The idea would be that we find a temporary solution until anyone > > > can request access to Confluence. > > > > > > There are a couple of ways we could resolve this situation: > > > 1. Contributors create a Google Doc and make that view-only, and post > > > that Google Doc to the mailing list for a discussion thread. When the > > > discussions have been resolved, the contributor ask on the Dev mailing > > > list to a committer/PMC to copy the contents from the Google Doc, and > > > create a FLIP number for them. The contributor can then use that FLIP > > > to actually have a VOTE thread. > > > 2. We could consider moving FLIPs to "Discussions" on Github, like > > > Airflow does at https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions > > > 3. Perhaps someone else has another good idea. > > > > > > Looking forward to your thoughts. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Martijn > > > > > >