Thanks Martijn moving this forward!

+1 for the first solution, because as of now it looks like this is a
temporary solution and we're still looking forward to the improvement by
ASF Infra, when the access is ok for contributors, we can back to the
current workflow.

For solution 2, one visible downside is that it becomes inconvenient to
look for flips (unless we permanently switch to github discussion).

Looking forward to hearing more thoughts.

Best,
Lincoln Lee


Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> 于2024年2月7日周三 21:51写道:

> Hi all,
>
> ASF Infra has confirmed to me that only ASF committers can access the
> ASF Confluence site since a recent change. One of the results of this
> decision is that users can't signup and access Confluence, so only
> committers+ can create FLIPs.
>
> ASF Infra hopes to improve this situation when they move to the Cloud
> shortly (as in: some months), but they haven't committed on an actual
> date. The idea would be that we find a temporary solution until anyone
> can request access to Confluence.
>
> There are a couple of ways we could resolve this situation:
> 1. Contributors create a Google Doc and make that view-only, and post
> that Google Doc to the mailing list for a discussion thread. When the
> discussions have been resolved, the contributor ask on the Dev mailing
> list to a committer/PMC to copy the contents from the Google Doc, and
> create a FLIP number for them. The contributor can then use that FLIP
> to actually have a VOTE thread.
> 2. We could consider moving FLIPs to "Discussions" on Github, like
> Airflow does at https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
> 3. Perhaps someone else has another good idea.
>
> Looking forward to your thoughts.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martijn
>

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