Hi,

To @Jing Ge
> Thanks for the clarification. Just out of curiosity, if the context is
not part of the event, why should it be the input parameter of each onEvent
call?

I think it's quite strange to put some information in an Event, such as a
factory identifier for catalog, but they will be used by the listener.  I
place it in the context class and I think it is more suitable than directly
placing it in the event class.

To @Mason
> 1. I'm also curious about default implementations. Would atlas/datahub be
supported by default?

We won't do that and external systems such as atlas/datahub need to
implement the listener themselves.

> 2. The FLIP title is confusing to me, especially in distinguishing it
from FLIP-314. Would a better FLIP title be "Support Catalog Metadata
Listener" or something alike?

Thanks, I think  "Support Catalog Modification Listener" will be
more suitable, I'll update the title to it.


Best,
Shammon FY


On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 12:25 PM Mason Chen <mas.chen6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Shammon,
>
> FLIP generally looks good and I'm excited to see this feature.
>
> 1. I'm also curious about default implementations. Would atlas/datahub be
> supported by default?
> 2. The FLIP title is confusing to me, especially in distinguishing it from
> FLIP-314. Would a better FLIP title be "Support Catalog Metadata Listener"
> or something alike?
>
> Best,
> Mason
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:33 AM Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hi Shammon,
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification. Just out of curiosity, if the context is
> not
> > part of the event, why should it be the input parameter of each onEvent
> > call?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jing
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 11:58 AM Leonard Xu <xbjt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Shammon for the timely update, the updated FLIP looks good to
> me.
> > >
> > > Hope to see the vote thread and following FLIP-314 discussion thread.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Leonard
> > >
> > > > On Jun 6, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Shammon FY <zjur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all the feedback.
> > > >
> > > > For @Jing Ge,
> > > > I forget to update the demo code in the FLIP, the method is
> > > > `onEvent(CatalogModificationEvent, CatalogModificationContext)` and
> > there
> > > > is no `onEvent(CatalogModificationEvent)`. I have updated the code.
> > > Context
> > > > contains some additional information that is not part of an Event,
> but
> > > > needs to be used in the listener, so we separate it from the event.
> > > >
> > > > For @Panagiotis,
> > > > I think `ioExecutor` make sense to me and I have added it in
> > > > `ContextModificationContext`, thanks
> > > >
> > > > For @Leonard,
> > > > Thanks for your input.
> > > > 1. I have updated `CatalogModificationContext` as an interface, as
> well
> > > as
> > > > Context in CatalogModificationListenerFactory
> > > > 2. Configuration sounds good to me, I have updated the method name
> and
> > > > getConfiguration in Context
> > > >
> > > > For @David,
> > > > Yes, you're right. The listener will only be used on the client side
> > and
> > > > won't introduce a new code path for running per-job/per-session jobs.
> > The
> > > > listener will be created in `TableEnvironment` and `SqlGateway` which
> > > can a
> > > > `CatalogManager` with the listener.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Shammon FY
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:33 PM David Morávek <
> david.mora...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for the FLIP! Data lineage is an important problem to tackle.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you please expand on how this is planned to be wired into the
> > > >> JobManager? As I understand, the listeners will be configured
> globally
> > > (per
> > > >> cluster), so this won't introduce a new code path for running
> per-job
> > /
> > > >> per-session user code. Is that correct?
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> D
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 9:17 AM Leonard Xu <xbjt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks Shammon for driving this FLIP forward, I’ve several comments
> > > about
> > > >>> the updated FLIP.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 1. CatalogModificationContext is introduced as a class instead of
> an
> > > >>> interface, is it a typo?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2. The FLIP defined multiple  Map<String, String> config();
> methods
> > in
> > > >>> some Context classes, Could we use  Configuration
> > > >> getConfiguration();Class
> > > >>> org.apache.flink.configuration.Configuration is recommend as it’s
> > > public
> > > >>> API and offers more useful methods as well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 3. The Context of CatalogModificationListenerFactory should be an
> > > >>> interface too, and getUserClassLoder()
> > > >>> would be more aligned with flink’s naming style.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best,
> > > >>> Leonard
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On May 26, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Shammon FY <zjur...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi devs,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> We would like to bring up a discussion about FLIP-294: Support
> > > >> Customized
> > > >>>> Job Meta Data Listener[1]. We have had several discussions with
> Jark
> > > >> Wu,
> > > >>>> Leonard Xu, Dong Lin, Qingsheng Ren and Poorvank about the
> functions
> > > >> and
> > > >>>> interfaces, and thanks for their valuable advice.
> > > >>>> The overall job and connector information is divided into metadata
> > and
> > > >>>> lineage, this FLIP focuses on metadata and lineage will be
> discussed
> > > in
> > > >>>> another FLIP in the future. In this FLIP we want to add a
> customized
> > > >>>> listener in Flink to report catalog modifications to external
> > metadata
> > > >>>> systems such as datahub[2] or atlas[3]. Users can view the
> specific
> > > >>>> information of connectors such as source and sink for Flink jobs
> in
> > > >> these
> > > >>>> systems, including fields, watermarks, partitions, etc.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Looking forward to hearing from you, thanks.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> [1]
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-294%3A+Support+Customized+Job+Meta+Data+Listener
> > > >>>> [2] https://datahub.io/
> > > >>>> [3] https://atlas.apache.org/#/
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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