I agree with Ingo. We can open a new JIRA issue or thread to discuss it.

Best,
Jark

On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 16:26, Ingo Bürk <i...@ververica.com> wrote:

> I of course meant DQL, not DDL, but same thing either way. It is akin to
> e.g. SHOW TABLES.
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:24 AM Ingo Bürk <i...@ververica.com> wrote:
>
> > To me this doesn't seem too related to the FLIP – this feature would
> > require new DDL, and new DDL should live in Flink itself, not in the SQL
> > client.
> >
> > I don't think this requires a FLIP, necessarily, though. It can probably
> > just be discussed on a JIRA issue.
> >
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:19 AM Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Daisy
> >>
> >> Thank you for the proposal.
> >> I like it.
> >> It was not discussed within this FLIP.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure about the procedure in such cases (since voting finished).
> >> Maybe a separate discussion thread makes sense.
> >>
> >> However I think it could be done as well if there is no objection.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 2:22 PM Daisy Tsang <da...@ververica.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > would a command that shows the available table source/sink factories
> be
> >> > implemented?  Something that can show that a factory is loaded, etc.
> >> >
> >> > - Daisy
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:30 AM Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I've started a [VOTE] thread for this FLIP
> >> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/f14jjhrscrdv7h6zw6h1k72nfx232qxs
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:59 PM Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Timo,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I completely agree it would be great if we can propagate Calcite
> >> parser
> >> > > > config in
> >> > > > the way you have described. As you mentioned we could discuss this
> >> > > > when it comes to the implementation.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Meanwhile it looks like I can start voting (please correct me if
> I'm
> >> > > > wrong).
> >> > > > I will start it a bit later today
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 1:37 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hi Sergey,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> thanks for your explanation.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Regarding keywords and other info: We should receive the
> >> information
> >> > > >> from the Flink SQL parser directly. We have added a couple of new
> >> > > >> keywords such as WATERMARK or MATCH_RECOGNIZE clauses. SQL92
> would
> >> not
> >> > > >> help a user understand why a column name needs to be escaped. And
> >> in
> >> > > >> general, we should not have duplicate code. Let's discuss this
> >> when it
> >> > > >> comes to the implementation. I'm sure we can propagate the
> Calcite
> >> > > >> parser config into a nice POJO that the CLI can receive from the
> >> > > Executor.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Regards,
> >> > > >> Timo
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On 03.11.21 11:12, Sergey Nuyanzin wrote:
> >> > > >> > Hi 李宇彬,
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > I think you are right. Thank you very much for the idea.
> >> > > >> > I came across MySQL[1] and PostgreSQL[2] prompts and also
> >> > > >> > found several interesting features like control symbols to
> change
> >> > > style,
> >> > > >> > showing current property value and different datetime formats.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > I have added your proposals and my findings to FLIP's page,
> >> please
> >> > > have
> >> > > >> a
> >> > > >> > look.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > [1]
> https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/mysql-commands.html
> >> > > >> > [2]
> >> > > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/14/app-psql.html#APP-PSQL-PROMPTING
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:31 AM 李宇彬 <lixin58...@163.com> wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> Hi Sergey
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> It is a very useful improvement I'm looking forward to. in
> >> > addition,
> >> > > I
> >> > > >> >> think prompt
> >> > > >> >> can play a greater role.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> To help users call commands in expected context, we can get
> >> session
> >> > > >> >> context
> >> > > >> >> (current catalog/db/time) from cli prompt like MySQL,
> >> > > >> >> please see details as below:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24730
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On 11/2/2021 21:09,Sergey Nuyanzin<snuyan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> Hi Timo
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Thank you for your questions.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> I will answer your questions here and update FLIP's page as
> well
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> For example, who is responsible for parsing comments? I guess
> >> the
> >> > SQL
> >> > > >> >> Client and not the Flink SQL parser will take care of this?
> >> > > >> >> Yes, you are right. SQL Client is responsible for parsing
> here.
> >> > > >> >> However it does not validate sql, it only validates that
> >> comments,
> >> > > >> brackets
> >> > > >> >> and quotes are closed and the statement ends with a semicolon.
> >> > > >> >> Also under the hood jline's splits input into words and works
> >> with
> >> > > >> them.
> >> > > >> >> Within a custom parser it is possible to specify what should
> be
> >> > > >> considered
> >> > > >> >> as a word or not considered at all (e.g. it is possible to
> >> remove
> >> > > >> >> all line and block comments before submitting a query,
> >> > > >> >> probably as another non default option)... During parsing it
> >> marks
> >> > > >> >> what is a comment, a keyword, a quoted string etc. based on
> >> rules
> >> > > >> >> defined in SQL Client parser.
> >> > > >> >> SQL Client highlighter could use the result of this marking to
> >> > > >> highlight.
> >> > > >> >> Completer could use it to do completion, e.g. if based on
> >> parser's
> >> > > >> marks
> >> > > >> >> completer knows that a cursor is inside a comment or a string
> >> > > >> >> then no need to complete anything.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Also, will the prompt hints for `'>` and ``>` support
> escaping?
> >> > This
> >> > > >> can
> >> > > >> >> be a tricky topic sometimes.
> >> > > >> >> Ideally yes, I played with lots of tricky cases and it behaves
> >> ok.
> >> > > >> >> At least I do not see limitations here.
> >> > > >> >> In case you do please share...
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> In general, how do we deal with different SQL dialects in the
> >> SQL
> >> > > >> >> Client. For example, it possible to `table.sql-dialect` to
> >> `HIVE`.
> >> > > Will
> >> > > >> >> all highlighting, auto-complete and prompt hints be disabled
> in
> >> > this
> >> > > >> case?
> >> > > >> >> It could be turned off for the beginning.
> >> > > >> >> To make it supported across different dialects it is required
> to
> >> > have
> >> > > >> such
> >> > > >> >> info:
> >> > > >> >> 1) Set of keywords
> >> > > >> >> 2) Quote sign
> >> > > >> >> 3) SQL identifier quote
> >> > > >> >> 4) Start of a line comment
> >> > > >> >> 5) Start and end of a block comment
> >> > > >> >> 6) Start and end of hints
> >> > > >> >> I see at least 2 ways:
> >> > > >> >> 1. provide such api
> >> > > >> >> 2. create this mapping in SQL Client and use it based on
> current
> >> > > >> dialect
> >> > > >> >> Then it will be easy to support it for a new dialect
> >> > > >> >> Here the only questionable thing is keywords.
> >> > > >> >> Currently I made it pretty straightforward:
> >> > > >> >> if a word not inside quoted string, not inside a comment or a
> >> hint
> >> > > >> >> and matches anything from
> >> > > >> >> SQL92 (
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> *org.apache.calcite.sql.parser.SqlAbstractParserImpl#getSql92ReservedWords*)),
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> then it will be highlighted as a keyword.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:09 PM Timo Walther <
> >> twal...@apache.org>
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> thanks for this nice demo video. It looks very nice and makes
> >> the
> >> > SQL
> >> > > >> >> Client an even more useful tool.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> What I miss a bit in the FLIP is the implementation details.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> For example, who is responsible for parsing comments? I guess
> >> the
> >> > SQL
> >> > > >> >> Client and not the Flink SQL parser will take care of this?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Also, will the prompt hints for `'>` and ``>` support
> escaping?
> >> > This
> >> > > >> can
> >> > > >> >> be a tricky topic sometimes.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> In general, how do we deal with different SQL dialects in the
> >> SQL
> >> > > >> >> Client. For example, it possible to `table.sql-dialect` to
> >> `HIVE`.
> >> > > Will
> >> > > >> >> all highlighting, auto-complete and prompt hints be disabled
> in
> >> > this
> >> > > >> case?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Looking forward to have this in Flink.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Thanks,
> >> > > >> >> Timo
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On 02.11.21 08:26, Till Rohrmann wrote:
> >> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> I think that after answering/resolving Jark's comments, you
> can
> >> > > start a
> >> > > >> >> [VOTE] thread for this FLIP. The process is described here
> [1].
> >> > Once
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> >> FLIP has been accepted, which it should, given the positive
> >> > feedback,
> >> > > >> you
> >> > > >> >> can start working on it by creating the corresponding JIRA
> >> tickets
> >> > > and
> >> > > >> >> then
> >> > > >> >> start coding. I hope that there will be a committer familiar
> >> with
> >> > the
> >> > > >> SQL
> >> > > >> >> client that can help you with the code review and merging of
> the
> >> > > code.
> >> > > >> >> But
> >> > > >> >> again, given the positive feedback, I think there will be a
> >> > > volunteer.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> [1]
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Flink+Improvement+Proposals
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Cheers,
> >> > > >> >> Till
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:25 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Awesome demo, looking forward to these features!
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> I only have a minor comment: could we provide a config to
> >> > > >> enable/disable
> >> > > >> >> the prompt values?
> >> > > >> >> We can also discuss whether we can enable all the new features
> >> by
> >> > > >> >> default
> >> > > >> >> to give them more exposure.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Best,
> >> > > >> >> Jark
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 10:48, JING ZHANG <beyond1...@gmail.com
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Amazing improvements and impressive video.
> >> > > >> >> Big +1.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Best,
> >> > > >> >> JING ZHANG
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> 于2021年11月2日周二 上午9:37写道:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Really cool improvements @Sergey. Can't wait to see it happen.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Best,
> >> > > >> >> Kurt
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:56 AM Martijn Visser <
> >> > mart...@ververica.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> I guess you've just set a new standard ;-) I agree with Ingo,
> >> these
> >> > > >> >> improvements look really good!
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Best regards,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Martijn
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 18:23, Ingo Bürk <i...@ververica.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> I think those improvements look absolutely amazing. Thanks for
> >> the
> >> > > >> >> little
> >> > > >> >> video!
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Best
> >> > > >> >> Ingo
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 17:15 Sergey Nuyanzin <
> snuyan...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Thanks for the feedback Till.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Martijn, I have created a short demo showing some of the
> >> features
> >> > > >> >> mentioned
> >> > > >> >> in FLIP.
> >> > > >> >> It is available at https://asciinema.org/a/446247?speed=3.0
> >> > > >> >> Could you please tell if it is what you are expecting or not?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:59 PM Till Rohrmann <
> >> > > >> >> trohrm...@apache.org>
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Thanks for creating this FLIP Sergey. I think what you propose
> >> > > >> >> sounds
> >> > > >> >> like
> >> > > >> >> very good improvements for the SQL client. This should make
> the
> >> > > >> >> client
> >> > > >> >> a
> >> > > >> >> lot more ergonomic :-)
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Cheers,
> >> > > >> >> Till
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:26 AM Sergey Nuyanzin <
> >> > > >> >> snuyan...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Hi Martijn,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Thank you for your suggestion with POC.
> >> > > >> >> Yes I will do that and come back to this thread probably
> >> > > >> >> after
> >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > >> >> weekend
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 4:38 PM Martijn Visser <
> >> > > >> >> mart...@ververica.com>
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Thanks for taking the initiative to create a FLIP and
> >> > > >> >> propose
> >> > > >> >> improvements
> >> > > >> >> on the SQL client. All usability improvements on the SQL
> >> > > >> >> client
> >> > > >> >> are
> >> > > >> >> highly
> >> > > >> >> appreciated, especially for new users of Flink. Multi-line
> >> > > >> >> support
> >> > > >> >> is
> >> > > >> >> definitely one of those things I've run into myself.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> I do think it would be quite nice if there would be some
> >> > > >> >> kind
> >> > > >> >> of
> >> > > >> >> POC
> >> > > >> >> which
> >> > > >> >> could show (some of) the proposed improvements. Is that
> >> > > >> >> something
> >> > > >> >> that
> >> > > >> >> might be easily feasible?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Best regards,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Martijn
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Sergey Nuyanzin <
> >> > > >> >> snuyan...@gmail.com
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Hi all,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> I want to start a discussion about FLIP-189: SQL Client
> >> > > >> >> Usability
> >> > > >> >> Improvements.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> The main changes in this FLIP:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> - Flink sql client parser improvements so
> >> > > >> >> that sql client does not ask for ; inside a quoted
> >> > > >> >> string
> >> > > >> >> or a
> >> > > >> >> comment
> >> > > >> >> - use prompt to show what sql client is waiting for
> >> > > >> >> - introduce syntax highlighting
> >> > > >> >> - improve completion
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> For more detailed changes, please refer to FLIP-189[1].
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> [1]
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-189%3A+SQL+Client+Usability+Improvements
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Look forward to your feedback.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> --
> >> > > >> >> Best regards,
> >> > > >> >> Sergey
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> --
> >> > > >> >> Best regards,
> >> > > >> >> Sergey
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> --
> >> > > >> >> Best regards,
> >> > > >> >> Sergey
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> --
> >> > > >> >> Best regards,
> >> > > >> >> Sergey
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Best regards,
> >> > > > Sergey
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Best regards,
> >> > > Sergey
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Sergey
> >>
> >
>

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