I of course meant DQL, not DDL, but same thing either way. It is akin to
e.g. SHOW TABLES.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:24 AM Ingo Bürk <i...@ververica.com> wrote:

> To me this doesn't seem too related to the FLIP – this feature would
> require new DDL, and new DDL should live in Flink itself, not in the SQL
> client.
>
> I don't think this requires a FLIP, necessarily, though. It can probably
> just be discussed on a JIRA issue.
>
>
> Ingo
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:19 AM Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daisy
>>
>> Thank you for the proposal.
>> I like it.
>> It was not discussed within this FLIP.
>>
>> I'm not sure about the procedure in such cases (since voting finished).
>> Maybe a separate discussion thread makes sense.
>>
>> However I think it could be done as well if there is no objection.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 2:22 PM Daisy Tsang <da...@ververica.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > would a command that shows the available table source/sink factories be
>> > implemented?  Something that can show that a factory is loaded, etc.
>> >
>> > - Daisy
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:30 AM Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've started a [VOTE] thread for this FLIP
>> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/f14jjhrscrdv7h6zw6h1k72nfx232qxs
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:59 PM Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Timo,
>> > > >
>> > > > I completely agree it would be great if we can propagate Calcite
>> parser
>> > > > config in
>> > > > the way you have described. As you mentioned we could discuss this
>> > > > when it comes to the implementation.
>> > > >
>> > > > Meanwhile it looks like I can start voting (please correct me if I'm
>> > > > wrong).
>> > > > I will start it a bit later today
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 1:37 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hi Sergey,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> thanks for your explanation.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Regarding keywords and other info: We should receive the
>> information
>> > > >> from the Flink SQL parser directly. We have added a couple of new
>> > > >> keywords such as WATERMARK or MATCH_RECOGNIZE clauses. SQL92 would
>> not
>> > > >> help a user understand why a column name needs to be escaped. And
>> in
>> > > >> general, we should not have duplicate code. Let's discuss this
>> when it
>> > > >> comes to the implementation. I'm sure we can propagate the Calcite
>> > > >> parser config into a nice POJO that the CLI can receive from the
>> > > Executor.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Regards,
>> > > >> Timo
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On 03.11.21 11:12, Sergey Nuyanzin wrote:
>> > > >> > Hi 李宇彬,
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I think you are right. Thank you very much for the idea.
>> > > >> > I came across MySQL[1] and PostgreSQL[2] prompts and also
>> > > >> > found several interesting features like control symbols to change
>> > > style,
>> > > >> > showing current property value and different datetime formats.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I have added your proposals and my findings to FLIP's page,
>> please
>> > > have
>> > > >> a
>> > > >> > look.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > [1] https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/mysql-commands.html
>> > > >> > [2]
>> > > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/14/app-psql.html#APP-PSQL-PROMPTING
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:31 AM 李宇彬 <lixin58...@163.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> Hi Sergey
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> It is a very useful improvement I'm looking forward to. in
>> > addition,
>> > > I
>> > > >> >> think prompt
>> > > >> >> can play a greater role.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> To help users call commands in expected context, we can get
>> session
>> > > >> >> context
>> > > >> >> (current catalog/db/time) from cli prompt like MySQL,
>> > > >> >> please see details as below:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24730
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On 11/2/2021 21:09,Sergey Nuyanzin<snuyan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> Hi Timo
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Thank you for your questions.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> I will answer your questions here and update FLIP's page as well
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> For example, who is responsible for parsing comments? I guess
>> the
>> > SQL
>> > > >> >> Client and not the Flink SQL parser will take care of this?
>> > > >> >> Yes, you are right. SQL Client is responsible for parsing here.
>> > > >> >> However it does not validate sql, it only validates that
>> comments,
>> > > >> brackets
>> > > >> >> and quotes are closed and the statement ends with a semicolon.
>> > > >> >> Also under the hood jline's splits input into words and works
>> with
>> > > >> them.
>> > > >> >> Within a custom parser it is possible to specify what should be
>> > > >> considered
>> > > >> >> as a word or not considered at all (e.g. it is possible to
>> remove
>> > > >> >> all line and block comments before submitting a query,
>> > > >> >> probably as another non default option)... During parsing it
>> marks
>> > > >> >> what is a comment, a keyword, a quoted string etc. based on
>> rules
>> > > >> >> defined in SQL Client parser.
>> > > >> >> SQL Client highlighter could use the result of this marking to
>> > > >> highlight.
>> > > >> >> Completer could use it to do completion, e.g. if based on
>> parser's
>> > > >> marks
>> > > >> >> completer knows that a cursor is inside a comment or a string
>> > > >> >> then no need to complete anything.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Also, will the prompt hints for `'>` and ``>` support escaping?
>> > This
>> > > >> can
>> > > >> >> be a tricky topic sometimes.
>> > > >> >> Ideally yes, I played with lots of tricky cases and it behaves
>> ok.
>> > > >> >> At least I do not see limitations here.
>> > > >> >> In case you do please share...
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> In general, how do we deal with different SQL dialects in the
>> SQL
>> > > >> >> Client. For example, it possible to `table.sql-dialect` to
>> `HIVE`.
>> > > Will
>> > > >> >> all highlighting, auto-complete and prompt hints be disabled in
>> > this
>> > > >> case?
>> > > >> >> It could be turned off for the beginning.
>> > > >> >> To make it supported across different dialects it is required to
>> > have
>> > > >> such
>> > > >> >> info:
>> > > >> >> 1) Set of keywords
>> > > >> >> 2) Quote sign
>> > > >> >> 3) SQL identifier quote
>> > > >> >> 4) Start of a line comment
>> > > >> >> 5) Start and end of a block comment
>> > > >> >> 6) Start and end of hints
>> > > >> >> I see at least 2 ways:
>> > > >> >> 1. provide such api
>> > > >> >> 2. create this mapping in SQL Client and use it based on current
>> > > >> dialect
>> > > >> >> Then it will be easy to support it for a new dialect
>> > > >> >> Here the only questionable thing is keywords.
>> > > >> >> Currently I made it pretty straightforward:
>> > > >> >> if a word not inside quoted string, not inside a comment or a
>> hint
>> > > >> >> and matches anything from
>> > > >> >> SQL92 (
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> *org.apache.calcite.sql.parser.SqlAbstractParserImpl#getSql92ReservedWords*)),
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> then it will be highlighted as a keyword.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:09 PM Timo Walther <
>> twal...@apache.org>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> thanks for this nice demo video. It looks very nice and makes
>> the
>> > SQL
>> > > >> >> Client an even more useful tool.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> What I miss a bit in the FLIP is the implementation details.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> For example, who is responsible for parsing comments? I guess
>> the
>> > SQL
>> > > >> >> Client and not the Flink SQL parser will take care of this?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Also, will the prompt hints for `'>` and ``>` support escaping?
>> > This
>> > > >> can
>> > > >> >> be a tricky topic sometimes.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> In general, how do we deal with different SQL dialects in the
>> SQL
>> > > >> >> Client. For example, it possible to `table.sql-dialect` to
>> `HIVE`.
>> > > Will
>> > > >> >> all highlighting, auto-complete and prompt hints be disabled in
>> > this
>> > > >> case?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Looking forward to have this in Flink.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Thanks,
>> > > >> >> Timo
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On 02.11.21 08:26, Till Rohrmann wrote:
>> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> I think that after answering/resolving Jark's comments, you can
>> > > start a
>> > > >> >> [VOTE] thread for this FLIP. The process is described here [1].
>> > Once
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> >> FLIP has been accepted, which it should, given the positive
>> > feedback,
>> > > >> you
>> > > >> >> can start working on it by creating the corresponding JIRA
>> tickets
>> > > and
>> > > >> >> then
>> > > >> >> start coding. I hope that there will be a committer familiar
>> with
>> > the
>> > > >> SQL
>> > > >> >> client that can help you with the code review and merging of the
>> > > code.
>> > > >> >> But
>> > > >> >> again, given the positive feedback, I think there will be a
>> > > volunteer.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> [1]
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Flink+Improvement+Proposals
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Cheers,
>> > > >> >> Till
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:25 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Awesome demo, looking forward to these features!
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> I only have a minor comment: could we provide a config to
>> > > >> enable/disable
>> > > >> >> the prompt values?
>> > > >> >> We can also discuss whether we can enable all the new features
>> by
>> > > >> >> default
>> > > >> >> to give them more exposure.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Best,
>> > > >> >> Jark
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 10:48, JING ZHANG <beyond1...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Amazing improvements and impressive video.
>> > > >> >> Big +1.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Best,
>> > > >> >> JING ZHANG
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> 于2021年11月2日周二 上午9:37写道:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Really cool improvements @Sergey. Can't wait to see it happen.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Best,
>> > > >> >> Kurt
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:56 AM Martijn Visser <
>> > mart...@ververica.com
>> > > >
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> I guess you've just set a new standard ;-) I agree with Ingo,
>> these
>> > > >> >> improvements look really good!
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Best regards,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Martijn
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 18:23, Ingo Bürk <i...@ververica.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> I think those improvements look absolutely amazing. Thanks for
>> the
>> > > >> >> little
>> > > >> >> video!
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Best
>> > > >> >> Ingo
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 17:15 Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Thanks for the feedback Till.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Martijn, I have created a short demo showing some of the
>> features
>> > > >> >> mentioned
>> > > >> >> in FLIP.
>> > > >> >> It is available at https://asciinema.org/a/446247?speed=3.0
>> > > >> >> Could you please tell if it is what you are expecting or not?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:59 PM Till Rohrmann <
>> > > >> >> trohrm...@apache.org>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Thanks for creating this FLIP Sergey. I think what you propose
>> > > >> >> sounds
>> > > >> >> like
>> > > >> >> very good improvements for the SQL client. This should make the
>> > > >> >> client
>> > > >> >> a
>> > > >> >> lot more ergonomic :-)
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Cheers,
>> > > >> >> Till
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:26 AM Sergey Nuyanzin <
>> > > >> >> snuyan...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Hi Martijn,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Thank you for your suggestion with POC.
>> > > >> >> Yes I will do that and come back to this thread probably
>> > > >> >> after
>> > > >> >> the
>> > > >> >> weekend
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 4:38 PM Martijn Visser <
>> > > >> >> mart...@ververica.com>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Hi Sergey,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Thanks for taking the initiative to create a FLIP and
>> > > >> >> propose
>> > > >> >> improvements
>> > > >> >> on the SQL client. All usability improvements on the SQL
>> > > >> >> client
>> > > >> >> are
>> > > >> >> highly
>> > > >> >> appreciated, especially for new users of Flink. Multi-line
>> > > >> >> support
>> > > >> >> is
>> > > >> >> definitely one of those things I've run into myself.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> I do think it would be quite nice if there would be some
>> > > >> >> kind
>> > > >> >> of
>> > > >> >> POC
>> > > >> >> which
>> > > >> >> could show (some of) the proposed improvements. Is that
>> > > >> >> something
>> > > >> >> that
>> > > >> >> might be easily feasible?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Best regards,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Martijn
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Sergey Nuyanzin <
>> > > >> >> snuyan...@gmail.com
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Hi all,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> I want to start a discussion about FLIP-189: SQL Client
>> > > >> >> Usability
>> > > >> >> Improvements.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> The main changes in this FLIP:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> - Flink sql client parser improvements so
>> > > >> >> that sql client does not ask for ; inside a quoted
>> > > >> >> string
>> > > >> >> or a
>> > > >> >> comment
>> > > >> >> - use prompt to show what sql client is waiting for
>> > > >> >> - introduce syntax highlighting
>> > > >> >> - improve completion
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> For more detailed changes, please refer to FLIP-189[1].
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> [1]
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-189%3A+SQL+Client+Usability+Improvements
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Look forward to your feedback.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> --
>> > > >> >> Best regards,
>> > > >> >> Sergey
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> --
>> > > >> >> Best regards,
>> > > >> >> Sergey
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> --
>> > > >> >> Best regards,
>> > > >> >> Sergey
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> --
>> > > >> >> Best regards,
>> > > >> >> Sergey
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Best regards,
>> > > > Sergey
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > Sergey
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Sergey
>>
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