We use a Cloudera 6.3 cluster in prod. I'd guess that it's still widely used in 
prod as those cloudera upgrades for major versions are planned long time ahead 
and take a significant amount of resources in big data lakes. 

On that 6.3. cluster, if I open spark-shell, I still see scala 2.11 in use: 
> Using Scala version 2.11.12 (Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM, Java 
> 1.8.0_181) 

Just to don't mess with any dependencies and as we have both, Flink and Spark 
jobs, we declare all dependencies with scala_2.11. But we never actually tried 
what happens if we would change that. We just seek maximum compatibility while 
at the same time, maintain and upgrade Flink ourselves to keep up with the 
development pace of the fast community and being able to use the latest major 
version quickly. 

So my suggestion: As long as it isn't much pain, I'd like to keep the scala 
2.11 support for a while. (or even better for me as a Java, but never scala 
developer: Drop it completely :) ) Speaking for my project: I think our ops 
team plans to upgrade to Cloudera 7 somewhere around Q2 2021, so personally I'm 
fine with dropping it then. 

Best regards 
Theo 




Von: "Igal Shilman" <i...@ververica.com> 
An: "Seth Wiesman" <sjwies...@gmail.com> 
CC: "dev" <dev@flink.apache.org>, "user" <u...@flink.apache.org> 
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. September 2020 13:15:38 
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Scala 2.11 

@Galen FYI: the upcoming StateFun release would use Scala2.12 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:14 PM Seth Wiesman < [ mailto:sjwies...@gmail.com | 
sjwies...@gmail.com ] > wrote: 



@glen 

Yes, we would absolutely migrate statefun. StateFun can be compiled with Scala 
2.12 today, I'm not sure why it's not cross released. 

@aljoscha :) 

@mathieu Its on the roadmap but it's non-trivial and I'm not aware of anyone 
actively working on it. 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:09 AM Matthieu Bonneviot 
<matthieu.bonnev...@datadome.co.invalid> wrote: 

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That makes sense. 
We are using 2.12 for our production 
Also, for flink scala 2.12 support, it is in fact limited to scala 2.12.7. 
It is binary incompatible with version 2.12 above ( 
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-12461 | 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-12461 ] ) 
That would be great to at least move to a more recent 2.12 version, and 
ideally to 2.13. 

Is there any scala support plan available? 

Matthieu 


On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:00 PM Aljoscha Krettek < [ mailto:aljos...@apache.org 
| aljos...@apache.org ] > 
wrote: 

> Yes! I would be in favour of this since it's blocking us from upgrading 
> certain dependencies. 
> 
> I would also be in favour of dropping Scala completely but that's a 
> different story. 
> 
> Aljoscha 
> 
> On 10.09.20 16:51, Seth Wiesman wrote: 
> > Hi Everyone, 
> > 
> > Think of this as a pre-flip, but what does everyone think about dropping 
> > Scala 2.11 support from Flink. 
> > 
> > The last patch release was in 2017 and in that time the scala community 
> has 
> > released 2.13 and is working towards a 3.0 release. Apache Kafka and 
> Spark 
> > have both dropped 2.11 support in recent versions. In fact, Flink's 
> > universal Kafka connector is stuck on 2.4 because that is the last 
> version 
> > with scala 2.11 support. 
> > 
> > What are people's thoughts on dropping Scala 2.11? How many are still 
> using 
> > it in production? 
> > 
> > Seth 
> > 
> 
> 

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