We stopped using these windows scripts in our training sessions a couple of years ago, and I can't remember seeing anyone use them at all since then. While our community includes many developers using Windows for development, in my experience pretty much everyone moves to some sort of linux-based environment once they are done testing in the IDE, be that via WSL, Docker, a local VM, or a staging server.
David On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:09 AM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote: > I think this question should go on the user mailing list, not on dev. > > You can also use Twitter to collect some data points. > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:07 AM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Realistically you can't really use the windows scripts in production > > since you can only start a standalone cluster consisting of 1 JM and 1 > TM. > > > > The .bat scripts are already limited to a significant degree. > > > > On 20/02/2020 03:48, Xintong Song wrote: > > > I'm also in favor of dropping the bat scripts. I can hardly image > > > people using Flink Windows deployment in their production. But maybe > > > throwing a survey on the user ML to double check on that? > > > > > > Thank you~ > > > > > > Xintong Song > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:28 AM Yang Wang <danrtsey...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I tend to drop the windows bat script to start/stop the cluster. Since > > >> there > > >> are various windows versions(e.g. xp, win7, win10, etc.) and do not > have > > >> sensational compatibility. Also we do not have the e2e tests to > > guarantee > > >> the scripts work well. > > >> > > >> On the other hand, i completely agree that local deployment, > especially > > in > > >> the IDE, should work on windows. For standalone deployment, i think > > using > > >> the docker is a good choice. I think many windows users are also using > > >> docker. For Yarn/K8s deployment, i am not sure whether we need to > > support > > >> to submit a Flink session/per-job cluster from windows machine. > > >> > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> Yang > > >> > > >> Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> 于2020年2月20日周四 上午12:15写道： > > >> > > >>> Note that with FLINK-15925 we effectively broke the start-cluster.bat > > >>> script in 1.10. > > >>> > > >>> Overall, I would be fine with dropping the .bat scripts because they > > are > > >>> a big maintenance problem for us. > > >>> We don't have anyone using these scripts regularly on our end (even I > > >>> don't). > > >>> If there were a way to unify the unix/windows scripts I would be all > > >>> ears, but this doesn't seem possible without lots and lots of > branches. > > >>> > > >>> However, we should definitely ensure that Flink continues to work in > > the > > >>> IDE on windows for training/demo purposes. > > >>> > > >>> As for CI, with the new Azure setup this may actually be feasible now > > >>> from a CI budged perspective. But it would require a fair upfront > time > > >>> investment to fix failing tests or adding assumptions for failing > > tests. > > >>> That said, this would have some nice benefits for finding resource > > >>> leaks, particularly in the filesystem. > > >>> > > >>> On 19/02/2020 16:46, Aljoscha Krettek wrote: > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> the background is this series of Jira Issues and PRs around > extending > > >>>> the .bat scripts for windows: > > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-5333. > > >>>> > > >>>> I would like to resolve this, by either closing the Jira Issues as > > >>>> "Won't Do" or finally merging these PRs. The questions I have are: > > >>>> > > >>>> - Should we add more full-featured (complicated?) windows scripts > > >>>> that are essentially re-implementations of our existing "unix" > > scripts? > > >>>> - Would windows users use these or would they, by now, use the > linux > > >>>> subsystem for windows or cygwin? > > >>>> - Should we even remove the existing .bat scripts that we have? > > >>>> > > >>>> Maintaining the windows scripts is hard because we only have one (I > > >>>> think, Chesnay) developer on windows and no CI for windows. > > >>>> > > >>>> What do you think? > > >>>> > > >>>> Best, > > >>>> Aljoscha > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >
