Hi all
I have drafted the docs of top-level FLIPs for the individual changes
proposed in FLIP-75.
will update it to the cwiki page and start the voting stage soon if there
is no objection.

   - FLIP-98: Better Back Pressure Detection
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b4GadCze-36x5TPHz6ie4WI9fOUuxWoT_rWWgeg68oo/edit?usp=sharing>
   - FLIP-99: Make Max Exception Configurable
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tsPpTEx5WqliOAUC924xzRxYOalUuB-GoznGPcxSzJo/edit?usp=sharing>
   - FLIP-100: Add Attempt Information
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ww7biOr6WMVfoYhtBTJftRqEm9FGo33AXgYibdXy47Y/edit?usp=sharing>
   - FLIP-101: Add Pending Slots Tab in Job Detail
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ttn7zIn_Z237JOHdmhiei6aCwKdjTU53I07XxA61Fis/edit?usp=sharing>
   - FLIP-102: Add More Metrics to TaskManager
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/18yHdsqUJ1FmNRm0hyeCm3nWvPFpvpJgTJ8BYNAa6Ul8/edit?usp=sharing>
   - FLIP-103: Better Taskmanager Log Display
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/16eEdW2KeLxvABdoXahx4MMMisW4_P9mKiqUE0F4GO1c/edit?usp=sharing>
   - FLIP-104: Add More Metrics to Jobmanager
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fak632iOroOLZFADqwZWu2SS-LUQqCLHnm8Vs3XM5to/edit?usp=sharing>
   - FLIP-105: Better Jobmanager Log Display
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ayXaZflelaymQuF3l6UOuGEg6zzbSGGewoDq-9SBOPY/edit?usp=sharing>


Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> 于2020年2月9日周日 下午7:24写道:

> Hi Till
> I got your point, will create sub FLIPs and votings according to the
> FLIP-75 and previous discussion soon.
>
> Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年2月9日周日 下午5:27写道:
>
>> Hi Yadong,
>>
>> I think it would be fine to simply link to this discussion thread to keep
>> the discussion history. Maybe an easier way would be to create top-level
>> FLIPs for the individual changes proposed in FLIP-75. The reason I'm
>> proposing this is that it would be easier to vote on it and to implement
>> it
>> because the scope is smaller. But maybe I'm wrong here and others could
>> chime in to voice their opinion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Till
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:58 AM Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Till
>> >
>> > FLIP-75 has been open since September, and the design doc has been
>> iterated
>> > over 3 versions and more than 20 patches.
>> > I had a try, but it is hard to split the design docs into sub FLIP and
>> keep
>> > all the discussion history at the same time.
>> >
>> > Maybe it is better to start another discussion to talk about the
>> individual
>> > sub FLIP voting? and make the next FLIP follow the new practice if
>> > possible.
>> >
>> > Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年2月3日周一 下午6:28写道:
>> >
>> > > I think there is no such description because we never did it before. I
>> > just
>> > > figured that FLIP-75 could actually be a good candidate to start this
>> > > practice. We would need a community discussion first, though.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Till
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:28 AM Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Till
>> > > > I didn’t find how to create of sub flip at cwiki.apache.org
>> > > > do you mean to create 9 more FLIPS instead of FLIP-75?
>> > > >
>> > > > Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年1月30日周四 下午11:12写道:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Would it be easier if FLIP-75 would be the umbrella FLIP and we
>> would
>> > > > vote
>> > > > > on the individual improvements as sub FLIPs? Decreasing the scope
>> > > should
>> > > > > make things easier.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > Till
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:35 PM Robert Metzger <
>> rmetz...@apache.org>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks a lot for this work! I believe the web UI is very
>> important,
>> > > in
>> > > > > > particular to new users. I'm very happy to see that you are
>> putting
>> > > > > effort
>> > > > > > into improving the visibility into Flink through the proposed
>> > > changes.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I can not judge if all the changes make total sense, but the
>> > > discussion
>> > > > > has
>> > > > > > been open since September, and a good number of people have
>> > commented
>> > > > in
>> > > > > > the document.
>> > > > > > I wonder if we can move this FLIP to the VOTing stage?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:27 PM Till Rohrmann <
>> > trohrm...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks for the update Yadong. Big +1 for the proposed
>> > improvements
>> > > > for
>> > > > > > > Flink's web UI. I think they will be super helpful for our
>> users.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > > Till
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:00 AM Yadong Xie <
>> vthink...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hi everyone
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > We have spent some time updating the documentation since the
>> > last
>> > > > > > > > discussion.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > In short, the latest FLIP-75 contains the following
>> > > > > proposal(including
>> > > > > > > both
>> > > > > > > > frontend and RestAPI)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >    1. Job Level
>> > > > > > > >       - better job backpressure detection
>> > > > > > > >       - load more feature in job exception
>> > > > > > > >       - show attempt history in the subtask
>> > > > > > > >       - show attempt timeline
>> > > > > > > >       - add pending slots
>> > > > > > > >    2. Task Manager Level
>> > > > > > > >       - add more metrics
>> > > > > > > >       - better log display
>> > > > > > > >    3. Job Manager Level
>> > > > > > > >       - add metrics tab
>> > > > > > > >       - better log display
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > To help everyone better understand the proposal, we spent
>> > efforts
>> > > > on
>> > > > > > > making
>> > > > > > > > an online POC <http://101.132.122.69:8081/web/#/overview>.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Now you can compare the difference between the new and old
>> > > > > Web/RestAPI
>> > > > > > > (the
>> > > > > > > > link is inside the doc)!
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Here is the latest FLIP-75 doc:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit#
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Looking forward to your feedback
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Best,
>> > > > > > > > Yadong
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > lining jing <jinglini...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月24日周四
>> 下午2:11写道:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Hi all, I have updated the backend design in FLIP-75
>> > > > > > > > > <
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>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > .
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Here are some brief introductions:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >    - Add metric for manage memory FLINK-14406
>> > > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14406>.
>> > > > > > > > >    - Expose TaskExecutor resource configurations to REST
>> API
>> > > > > > > FLINK-14422
>> > > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14422>.
>> > > > > > > > >    - Add TaskManagerResourceInfo in
>> TaskManagerDetailsInfo to
>> > > > show
>> > > > > > > > >    TaskManager Resource FLINK-14435
>> > > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14435>.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I will continue to update the rest part of the backend
>> design
>> > > in
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > doc,
>> > > > > > > > > let's keep discuss here, any feedback is appreciated.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> 于2019年9月27日周五 上午10:13写道:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Hi all
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Flink Web UI is the main platform for most users to
>> monitor
>> > > > their
>> > > > > > > jobs
>> > > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > clusters. We have reconstructed Flink web in 1.9.0
>> version,
>> > > but
>> > > > > > there
>> > > > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > > > still some shortcomings.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > This discussion thread aims to provide a better
>> experience
>> > > for
>> > > > > > Flink
>> > > > > > > UI
>> > > > > > > > > > users.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Here is the design doc I drafted:
>> > > > > > > > > >
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>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > The FLIP can be found at [2].
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Please keep the discussion here, in the mailing list.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your opinions, any feedbacks are
>> > welcome.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > [1]:
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>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
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