Hi Till
I got your point, will create sub FLIPs and votings according to the
FLIP-75 and previous discussion soon.

Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年2月9日周日 下午5:27写道:

> Hi Yadong,
>
> I think it would be fine to simply link to this discussion thread to keep
> the discussion history. Maybe an easier way would be to create top-level
> FLIPs for the individual changes proposed in FLIP-75. The reason I'm
> proposing this is that it would be easier to vote on it and to implement it
> because the scope is smaller. But maybe I'm wrong here and others could
> chime in to voice their opinion.
>
> Cheers,
> Till
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:58 AM Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Till
> >
> > FLIP-75 has been open since September, and the design doc has been
> iterated
> > over 3 versions and more than 20 patches.
> > I had a try, but it is hard to split the design docs into sub FLIP and
> keep
> > all the discussion history at the same time.
> >
> > Maybe it is better to start another discussion to talk about the
> individual
> > sub FLIP voting? and make the next FLIP follow the new practice if
> > possible.
> >
> > Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年2月3日周一 下午6:28写道:
> >
> > > I think there is no such description because we never did it before. I
> > just
> > > figured that FLIP-75 could actually be a good candidate to start this
> > > practice. We would need a community discussion first, though.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Till
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:28 AM Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Till
> > > > I didn’t find how to create of sub flip at cwiki.apache.org
> > > > do you mean to create 9 more FLIPS instead of FLIP-75?
> > > >
> > > > Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年1月30日周四 下午11:12写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Would it be easier if FLIP-75 would be the umbrella FLIP and we
> would
> > > > vote
> > > > > on the individual improvements as sub FLIPs? Decreasing the scope
> > > should
> > > > > make things easier.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Till
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:35 PM Robert Metzger <
> rmetz...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks a lot for this work! I believe the web UI is very
> important,
> > > in
> > > > > > particular to new users. I'm very happy to see that you are
> putting
> > > > > effort
> > > > > > into improving the visibility into Flink through the proposed
> > > changes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can not judge if all the changes make total sense, but the
> > > discussion
> > > > > has
> > > > > > been open since September, and a good number of people have
> > commented
> > > > in
> > > > > > the document.
> > > > > > I wonder if we can move this FLIP to the VOTing stage?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:27 PM Till Rohrmann <
> > trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the update Yadong. Big +1 for the proposed
> > improvements
> > > > for
> > > > > > > Flink's web UI. I think they will be super helpful for our
> users.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Till
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:00 AM Yadong Xie <
> vthink...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi everyone
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have spent some time updating the documentation since the
> > last
> > > > > > > > discussion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In short, the latest FLIP-75 contains the following
> > > > > proposal(including
> > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > frontend and RestAPI)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    1. Job Level
> > > > > > > >       - better job backpressure detection
> > > > > > > >       - load more feature in job exception
> > > > > > > >       - show attempt history in the subtask
> > > > > > > >       - show attempt timeline
> > > > > > > >       - add pending slots
> > > > > > > >    2. Task Manager Level
> > > > > > > >       - add more metrics
> > > > > > > >       - better log display
> > > > > > > >    3. Job Manager Level
> > > > > > > >       - add metrics tab
> > > > > > > >       - better log display
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To help everyone better understand the proposal, we spent
> > efforts
> > > > on
> > > > > > > making
> > > > > > > > an online POC <http://101.132.122.69:8081/web/#/overview>.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now you can compare the difference between the new and old
> > > > > Web/RestAPI
> > > > > > > (the
> > > > > > > > link is inside the doc)!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is the latest FLIP-75 doc:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit#
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Looking forward to your feedback
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Yadong
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > lining jing <jinglini...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月24日周四 下午2:11写道:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi all, I have updated the backend design in FLIP-75
> > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here are some brief introductions:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    - Add metric for manage memory FLINK-14406
> > > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14406>.
> > > > > > > > >    - Expose TaskExecutor resource configurations to REST
> API
> > > > > > > FLINK-14422
> > > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14422>.
> > > > > > > > >    - Add TaskManagerResourceInfo in TaskManagerDetailsInfo
> to
> > > > show
> > > > > > > > >    TaskManager Resource FLINK-14435
> > > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14435>.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will continue to update the rest part of the backend
> design
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > doc,
> > > > > > > > > let's keep discuss here, any feedback is appreciated.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> 于2019年9月27日周五 上午10:13写道:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Flink Web UI is the main platform for most users to
> monitor
> > > > their
> > > > > > > jobs
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > clusters. We have reconstructed Flink web in 1.9.0
> version,
> > > but
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > still some shortcomings.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This discussion thread aims to provide a better
> experience
> > > for
> > > > > > Flink
> > > > > > > UI
> > > > > > > > > > users.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Here is the design doc I drafted:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The FLIP can be found at [2].
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please keep the discussion here, in the mailing list.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your opinions, any feedbacks are
> > welcome.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [1]:
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit#
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> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-75%3A+Flink+Web+UI+Improvement+Proposal
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