Hi everyone,

Glad to receive your valuable feedbacks.

I'd first separate the Pulsar catalog as another doc and show more design
and implementation details there.

For the current FLIP-72, I would separate it into the sink part for current
work and keep the source part as future works until we reach FLIP-27 finals.

I also reply to some of the comments in the design doc. I will rewrite the
catalog part in regarding to Bowen's advice in both email and comments.

Thanks for the help again.

Best,
Yijie

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:40 AM Rong Rong <walter...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Yijie,
>
> I also agree with Jark on separating the Catalog part into another FLIP.
>
> With FLIP-27[1] also in the air, it is also probably great to split and
> unblock the sink implementation contribution.
> I would suggest either putting in a detail implementation plan section in
> the doc, or (maybe too much separation?) splitting them into different
> FLIPs. What do you guys think?
>
> --
> Rong
>
> [1]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-27%3A+Refactor+Source+Interface
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:00 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Yijie,
> >
> > Thanks for the design document. I agree with Bowen that the catalog part
> > needs more details.
> > And I would suggest to separate Pulsar Catalog as another FLIP. IMO, it
> has
> > little to do with source/sink.
> > Having a separate FLIP can unblock the contribution for sink (or source)
> > and keep the discussion more focus.
> > I also left some comments in the documentation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jark
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 11:24, Yijie Shen <henry.yijies...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Bowen,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your comments. I'll add catalog details as you suggested.
> > >
> > > One more question: since we decide to not implement source part of the
> > > connector at the moment.
> > > What can users do with a Pulsar catalog?
> > > Create a table backed by Pulsar and check existing pulsar tables to see
> > > their schemas? Drop tables maybe?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Yijie
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 1:04 AM Bowen Li <bowenl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Yijie,
> > > >
> > > > Per the discussion, maybe you can move pulsar source to 'future work'
> > > > section in the FLIP for now?
> > > >
> > > > Besides, the FLIP seems to be quite rough at the moment, and I'd
> > > recommend
> > > > to add more details .
> > > >
> > > > A few questions mainly regarding the proposed pulsar catalog.
> > > >
> > > >    - Can you provide some background of pulsar schema registry and
> how
> > it
> > > >    works?
> > > >    - The proposed design of pulsar catalog is very vague now, can you
> > > >    share some details of how a pulsar catalog would work internally?
> > E.g.
> > > >       - which APIs does it support exactly? E.g. I see from your
> > > >       prototype that table creation is supported but not alteration.
> > > >       - is it going to connect to a pulsar schema registry via a http
> > > >       client or a pulsar client, etc
> > > >       - will it be able to handle multiple versions of pulsar, or
> just
> > > >       one? How is compatibility handles between different
> Flink-Pulsar
> > > versions?
> > > >       - will it support only reading from pulsar schema registry , or
> > > >       both read/write? Will it work end-to-end in Flink SQL for users
> > to
> > > create
> > > >       and manipulate a pulsar table such as "CREATE TABLE t WITH
> > > >       PROPERTIES(type=pulsar)" and "DROP TABLE t"?
> > > >       - Is a pulsar topic always gonna be a non-partitioned table?
> How
> > is
> > > >       a partitioned topic mapped to a Flink table?
> > > >    - How to map Flink's catalog/database namespace to pulsar's
> > > >    multi-tenant namespaces? I'm not very familiar with how multi
> > tenancy
> > > works
> > > >    in pulsar, and some background context/use cases may help here
> too.
> > > E.g.
> > > >       - can a pulsar client/consumer/producer be multiple-tenant at
> the
> > > >       same time?
> > > >       - how does authentication work in pulsar's multi-tenancy and
> the
> > > >       catalog? asking since I didn't see the proposed pulsar catalog
> > has
> > > >       username/password configs
> > > >       - the FLIP seems propose mapping a pulsar cluster and
> > > >       'tenant/namespace' respectively to Flink's 'catalog' and
> > > 'database'. I
> > > >       wonder whether it totally makes sense, or should we actually
> map
> > > "tenant"
> > > >       to "catalog", and "namespace" to "database"?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Bowen
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:16 AM Yijie Shen <
> henry.yijies...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi everyone,
> > > >>
> > > >> Per discussion in the previous thread
> > > >> <
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Contribute-Pulsar-Flink-connector-back-to-Flink-tc32538.html
> > > >> >,
> > > >> I have created FLIP-72 to kick off a more detailed discussion on the
> > > Flink
> > > >> Pulsar connector:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-72%3A+Introduce+Pulsar+Connector
> > > >>
> > > >> In short, the connector has the following features:
> > > >>
> > > >>    -
> > > >>
> > > >>    Pulsar as a streaming source with exactly-once guarantee.
> > > >>    -
> > > >>
> > > >>    Sink streaming results to Pulsar with at-least-once semantics.
> > > >>    -
> > > >>
> > > >>    Build upon Flink new Table API Type system (FLIP-37
> > > >>    <
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-37%3A+Rework+of+the+Table+API+Type+System
> > > >> >
> > > >>    ), and can automatically (de)serialize messages with the help of
> > > Pulsar
> > > >>    schema.
> > > >>    -
> > > >>
> > > >>    Integrate with Flink new Catalog API (FLIP-30
> > > >>    <
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-30%3A+Unified+Catalog+APIs
> > > >> >),
> > > >>    which enables the use of Pulsar topics as tables in Table API as
> > well
> > > >> as
> > > >>    SQL client.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rES79eKhkJxrRfQp1b3u8LB2aPaq-6JaDHDPJIA8kMY/edit#heading=h.28v5v23yeq1u
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Would love to here your thoughts on this.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Yijie
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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