One thing which was briefly mentioned in the Flip but not in the
implementation plan is the update of the web UI. I think it is worth
putting an extra item for updating the web UI to properly display the
resources a TM has still to offer with dynamic slot allocation. I guess we
need to pull in some JavaScript help in order to implement this step.

Cheers,
Till

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:15 PM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the comments, Andrey.
>
> - I agree that instead of ResourceManagerGateway#sendSlotReport, we should
> add the default slot resource profile to
> ResourceManagerGateway#registerTaskExecutor.
>
> - If I understand correctly, the reason you suggest do default slot
> resource profile first and then do step 3 in a way that support both
> TaskExecutorGateway#requestSlot and TaskExecutorGateway#requestResource, is
> to try to avoid splitting code paths with the feature option? I think we
> can do that, but I also want to bring it up that this can only reduce the
> code split by the feature option (which is good) but not eliminate it. We
> still need the feature option for the fundamental differences, e.g.
> creating new SlotIDs on allocation vs. allocate to free slots with existing
> SlotIDs.
>
> - I don't really think we can do step 5, 6 and 7 independently. Basically
> they are all making changes to the same component. We probably can do step
> 6 and 7 independently, but I think they both depends on step 5.
>
> In general, I would say it's good to have as less as possible codes split
> by the feature option, which makes the later clean-up easier. But if it
> cannot be easily done, I would rather not to put too much efforts on having
> a good abstraction and deduplication between the new code path and the
> original one that we are removing soon.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thank you~
>
> Xintong Song
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:59 PM Andrey Zagrebin <and...@ververica.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Xintong,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing the implementation steps. I also think they makes
> sense
> > with the feature option.
> >
> > I was wondering if we could order the steps in a way that each change
> does
> > not affect other components too much, always having a working system
> > then maybe the feature option does not always need to split the code.
> Here
> > are some thoughts.
> >
> > - We could do default slot profile firstly and include it into the TM
> > registration. I would suggest to add
> > to ResourceManagerGateway#registerTaskExecutor, not sendSlotReport.
> >   This way RM knows about it but does not use at this point. (parts of
> step
> > 4,6)
> >
> > - We could try to do step 3 firstly in a way that it also supports the
> > current way of allocation in TaskExecutorGateway#requestSlot with the
> > default slot profile
> >   and sends reports both with available resources and with free default
> > slots which correspond to the available resources. We can just remove
> free
> > default slots later.
> >   The new way of TaskExecutorGateway#requestResource could be also
> > implemented here but not used yet.
> >
> > - Then step 5 can use the new TaskExecutorGateway#requestResource and the
> > default slot profile
> >
> > - Not sure, step 5 and 7 can be implemented independently without
> > regression of what we have. Maybe if we do step 7 firstly it will have
> only
> > default slots firstly and it will simplify step 5 later.
> >
> > Best,
> > Andrey
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:53 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the comments, Till and Wenlong.
> > >
> > > @Wenlong
> > > Regarding slot sharing, the general idea is to request a slot with
> > > resources for tasks of the entire slot sharing group. Details can be
> > found
> > > in FLIP-53 [1], regarding how to decide the slot sharing groups and how
> > to
> > > manage task resources within the shared slots.
> > >
> > > Thank you~
> > >
> > > Xintong Song
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 10:42 AM wenlong.lwl <wenlong88....@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, Xintong, thanks for the great proposal. big +1 for the feature!
> It
> > is
> > > > something like mapreduce-1.0 to mapreduce-2.0.
> > > >
> > > > I like the design on the whole. One point may need to be included in
> > the
> > > > proposal:How we deal with slot share group and dynamic slot
> allocation?
> > > It
> > > > can be quite different with dynamic slot allocation.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 16:42, Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the update Xintong. From a high level perspective the
> > > > > implementation plan looks good to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Till
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:04 AM Xintong Song <
> tonysong...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Added implementation steps for this FLIP on the wiki page [1].
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you~
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Xintong Song
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-56%3A+Dynamic+Slot+Allocation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:43 PM Xintong Song <
> > tonysong...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > @Zili
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As far as I know, Timo is drafting a FLIP that has taken the
> > number
> > > > 55.
> > > > > > > There is a round-up number maintained on the FLIP wiki page [1]
> > > shows
> > > > > > > which number should be used for the new FLIP, which should be
> > > > increased
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > whoever takes the number for a new FLIP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you~
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Xintong Song
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Flink+Improvement+Proposals
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:28 AM Zili Chen <
> wander4...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> We suddenly skipped FLIP-55 lol.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> 于2019年8月19日周一 下午10:23写道:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > We would like to start a discussion thread on "FLIP-56:
> > Dynamic
> > > > Slot
> > > > > > >> > Allocation" [1]. This is originally part of the discussion
> > > thread
> > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > "FLIP-53: Fine Grained Resource Management" [2]. As Till
> > > > suggested,
> > > > > we
> > > > > > >> > would like split the original discussion into two topics,
> and
> > > > start
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > separate new discussion thread as well as FLIP process for
> > this
> > > > one.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Thank you~
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Xintong Song
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > [1]
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-56%3A+Dynamic+Slot+Allocation
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > [2]
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-FLIP-53-Fine-Grained-Resource-Management-td31831.html
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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