+Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com> this is looking good, thanks
for sharing!

I also created a similar doc for Apache Airflow [1]. It is a bit messy, but
it has questions from the application form that you can work with.

Cheers,
Aizhamal

[1]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HoL_yjNYiTAP9IxSlhx3EUnPFU4l9WOT9EnwBZjCZo0/edit#


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:24 AM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm very happy to see this project happening!
>
> Thank you for the proposal Konstantin! One idea for the "related
> material": we could also link to talks or blog posts about concepts /
> monitoring / operations. Potential writers could feel overwhelmed by our
> demand for improvements, without any additional material.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Konstantin Knauf <
> konstan...@ververica.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> thanks @Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizha...@google.com>. As we only have one
>> week left until the application deadline, I went ahead and created a
>> document for the project ideas [1]. I have added the description for the
>> "stream processing concepts" as well as the "deployment & operations
>> documentation" project idea. Please let me know what you think, edit &
>> comment. We also need descriptions for the other two projects (Table
>> API/SQL & Flink Internals). @Fabian/@Jark/@Stephan can you chime in?
>>
>> Any more project ideas?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Konstantin
>>
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Up53jNsLztApn-mP76AB6xWUVGt3nwS9p6xQTiceKXo/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 6:50 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizha...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> > @Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com> - yes, you are correct.
>> > Between steps 1 and 2 though, the open source organization, in this case
>> > Flink, has to be selected by SoD as one of the participating orgs
>> *fingers
>> > crossed*.
>> >
>> > One tip about organizing ideas is that you want to communicate potential
>> > projects to the tech writers that are applying. Just make sure the
>> scope of
>> > the project is clear to them. The SoD wants to set up the tech writers
>> for
>> > success by making sure the work can be done in the allotted time.
>> >
>> > Hope it helps.
>> >
>> > Aizhamal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 7:37 AM Konstantin Knauf <
>> konstan...@ververica.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I read through the SoD documentation again, and now I think, it would
>> >> actually make sense to split (1) up into multiple project ideas. Let me
>> >> summarize the overall process:
>> >>
>> >> 1. We create & publish a list of project ideas, e.g. in a blog post.
>> >> (This can be any number of ideas.)
>> >> 2. Potential technical writers look at our list of ideas and sent a
>> >> proposal for a particular project to Google. During that time they can
>> >> reach out to us for clarification.
>> >> 3. Google forwards all proposals for our project ideas to us and we
>> sent
>> >> back a prioritized list of proposals, which we would like to accept.
>> >> 4. Of all these proposals, Google accepts 50 proposals for SoD 2019.
>> Per
>> >> organization Google will only accept a maximum of two proposals.
>> >>
>> >> @Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizha...@google.com> Please correct me!
>> >>
>> >> For me this means we should splits this up in a way, that each project
>> is
>> >> a) still relevant in September b) makes sense as a 3 month project.
>> Based
>> >> on the ideas we have right now these could for example be:
>> >>
>> >> (I) Rework/Extract/Improve the documentation of stream processing
>> concepts
>> >> (II) Improve & extend Apache Flink's documentation for deployment,
>> >> operations (incl. configuration)
>> >> (III) Add documentation for Flink internals
>> >> (IV) Rework Table API / SQL documentation
>> >>
>> >> We would then get proposals potentially for all of these topics and
>> could
>> >> decide which of these proposals, we would sent back to Google. My
>> feeling
>> >> is that a technical writer could easily spent three months on any of
>> these
>> >> projects. What do others think? Any other project ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Konstantin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:47 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm fine with only preparing the first proposal. I think it's
>> reasonable
>> >>> because the first proposal is more attractive
>> >>> and maybe there is not enough Chinese writer. We can focus on one
>> project
>> >>> to come up with a concrete and
>> >>> attractive project plan.
>> >>>
>> >>> One possible subproject could be rework Table SQL docs.
>> >>> (1). Improve concepts in Table SQL.
>> >>> (2). A more detailed introduction of built-in functions, currently we
>> >>> only
>> >>> have a simple explanation for each function.
>> >>>       We should add more descriptions, especially more concrete
>> examples,
>> >>> and maybe some notes. We can take
>> >>>       MySQL doc [1] as a reference.
>> >>> (3). As Flink SQL is evolving rapidly and features from Blink is being
>> >>> merged,  for example, SQL DDL, Hive integration,
>> >>>       Python Table API, Interactive Programing, SQL optimization and
>> >>> tuning, etc... We can redesign the doc structure of
>> >>>       Table SQL in a higher vision.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Jark
>> >>>
>> >>> [1]:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/string-functions.html#function_bin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 18:19, jincheng sun <sunjincheng...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I am honored to have the opportunity to do a second organization
>> >>> > administrator‘s works!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It seems that one project and multiple projects have their own
>> >>> advantages.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > My understanding is that even if we only have one project, we also
>> can
>> >>> have
>> >>> > multiple mentors and recruit enough writers.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月12日周五 下午5:57写道:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Yes, I think we would get at most one project accepted.
>> >>> > > Having all options in a rather generic proposal gives us the most
>> >>> > > flexibility to decide what to work on once the proposal is
>> accepted.
>> >>> > > On the other hand, a more concrete proposal might look more
>> >>> attractive
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > > candidates.
>> >>> > > I'm fine either way, but my gut feeling is that a well scoped
>> >>> proposal
>> >>> > > gives better changes of finding a writer (which might be the
>> biggest
>> >>> > > challenge).
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 11:39 Uhr schrieb Stephan Ewen <
>> >>> > se...@apache.org
>> >>> > > >:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > > I would suggest to make one proposal and have the subsections
>> only
>> >>> in
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > > > project plan.
>> >>> > > > My understanding is that we need to indicate priorities between
>> >>> > proposals
>> >>> > > > and might get only one, so it would be good to not subdivide.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Fabian Hueske <
>> fhue...@gmail.com>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > > Hi everyone,
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > I think we can split the first project that Stephan proposed
>> into
>> >>> > > smaller
>> >>> > > > > ones:
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > (1) Create or rework setup / tutorials / concepts docs
>> >>> > > > > > (2) Complete (or advance) the Chinese translation
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > 1.1 Improving (extracting) the documentation of stream
>> processing
>> >>> > > > concepts:
>> >>> > > > > Event-time, Timers, State, State Backends, Checkpointing,
>> >>> Savepoints
>> >>> > > > > Right now, the relevant information is scattered across
>> several
>> >>> pages
>> >>> > > and
>> >>> > > > > mixed with the implementation / APIs / configuration options.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > 1.2 Improving & extending the documentation of deployments
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > 1.3 Adding documentation in the internals: Distributed
>> >>> architecture,
>> >>> > > > > recovery, operators, job translation, execution, etc.
>> >>> > > > > This documentation would be targeted to Flink developers.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > I thought again about the idea of improving the tutorials, and
>> >>> I'm no
>> >>> > > > > longer sure if this would fit SoD well.
>> >>> > > > > The reason is that creating good tutorials requires a good
>> >>> portion of
>> >>> > > > > coding / configuration (creating Docker images, example
>> programs,
>> >>> > > etc.).
>> >>> > > > > Also I'd like to start improving the situation of tutorials
>> >>> earlier
>> >>> > > than
>> >>> > > > > September.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > What do others think?
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Cheers, Fabian
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 04:29 Uhr schrieb Jark Wu <
>> >>> imj...@gmail.com
>> >>> > >:
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Hi Konstantin, Ken,
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > I agree that Chinese documentation is mainly a translation.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > >  Does anyone from the Blink team have input on whether
>> there
>> >>> is
>> >>> > > > > existing,
>> >>> > > > > > original Chinese documentation which should be translated to
>> >>> > English?
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > There is a public Blink documentation [1] which is English.
>> >>> > > > > > We have a Blink Chinese documentation in internal, but I
>> think
>> >>> we
>> >>> > > need
>> >>> > > > to
>> >>> > > > > > rewrite it in English and restructure it when contributing
>> >>> Blink to
>> >>> > > > > Flink.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Regarding the Chinese translation project, I agree with
>> Ken's
>> >>> > > opinion.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > From the point of my translation experience, translation is
>> a
>> >>> work
>> >>> > > that
>> >>> > > > > > need to understand the original English sentence correctly
>> and
>> >>> then
>> >>> > > > > express
>> >>> > > > > > it in Chinese in an easily understandable way. This is not a
>> >>> simple
>> >>> > > > work
>> >>> > > > > > that translate word by word. The one we need is not a
>> >>> "professional
>> >>> > > > > > translator",
>> >>> > > > > > but a "technical writer who are familiar with both
>> >>> languages".  I
>> >>> > > also
>> >>> > > > > > agree that the writer who write the initial documentation
>> has
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > > better
>> >>> > > > > > ability than
>> >>> > > > > > translator to distill complex technical concepts.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > [1]: https://flink-china.org/doc/blink
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 02:40, Ken Krugler <
>> >>> > > kkrugler_li...@transpac.com
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > Hi Konstantin,
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > Comments inline below…
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > — Ken
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > On Apr 11, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Konstantin Knauf <
>> >>> > > > > > konstan...@ververica.com>
>> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > I will start going through the registration process
>> >>> tomorrow
>> >>> > > (CET).
>> >>> > > > > > > > Jincheng (cc) reached out to me directly and offered to
>> be
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > > second
>> >>> > > > > > > > organization administrator. So, we are all set in that
>> >>> regard.
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > In terms of mentors, we now have
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > * myself
>> >>> > > > > > > > * Fabian
>> >>> > > > > > > > * David
>> >>> > > > > > > > * Stephan
>> >>> > > > > > > > * Jark (Chinese Translation)
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > Regarding the Chinese translation project, it is
>> probably a
>> >>> > > > question
>> >>> > > > > of
>> >>> > > > > > > how
>> >>> > > > > > > > independent the Chinese version is supposed to be. If
>> the
>> >>> > English
>> >>> > > > > > > > documentation is the ground-truth and the Chinese
>> >>> documentation
>> >>> > > is
>> >>> > > > > > > (mainly)
>> >>> > > > > > > > a translation, I agree with Stefan. If the Chinese
>> >>> > documentation
>> >>> > > is
>> >>> > > > > > > > supposed to become an independent secondary
>> documentation,
>> >>> it
>> >>> > > could
>> >>> > > > > be
>> >>> > > > > > a
>> >>> > > > > > > > project for a technical writer as well. Has this
>> questions
>> >>> > > already
>> >>> > > > > been
>> >>> > > > > > > > discussed in the community?
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > My understanding is that the Chinese documentation is
>> going
>> >>> to
>> >>> > > mostly
>> >>> > > > > be
>> >>> > > > > > a
>> >>> > > > > > > translation of the English versions.
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > Though perhaps, with all of the Blink integration going
>> on,
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > > inverse
>> >>> > > > > > > could also be true.
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > Does anyone from the Blink team have input on whether
>> there
>> >>> is
>> >>> > > > > existing,
>> >>> > > > > > > original Chinese documentation which should be translated
>> to
>> >>> > > English?
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:34 AM Stephan Ewen <
>> >>> > se...@apache.org>
>> >>> > > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> So we have two ideas for docs projects now:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> (1) Create or rework setup / tutorials / concepts docs
>> >>> > > > > > > >> (2) Complete (or advance) the Chinese translation
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Should we apply for both (and let the SoD committee
>> select
>> >>> > > > whichever
>> >>> > > > > > > they
>> >>> > > > > > > >> want to sponsor) or select one of them?
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> For project (2), this sounds to me more like a project
>> >>> for a
>> >>> > > > > > > "translator",
>> >>> > > > > > > >> not a "technical writer". As far as I understand it,
>> the
>> >>> big
>> >>> > > > benefit
>> >>> > > > > > of
>> >>> > > > > > > >> having a technical writer is to have someone who can
>> >>> describe
>> >>> > > > > > > complicated
>> >>> > > > > > > >> technical concepts (that engineers describe in
>> complicated
>> >>> > > > language)
>> >>> > > > > > in
>> >>> > > > > > > an
>> >>> > > > > > > >> easily understandable way.
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > Actually a good Chinese translation of the technical docs
>> >>> > requires
>> >>> > > > > > someone
>> >>> > > > > > > with many of the same skills. In order for the translation
>> >>> to be
>> >>> > > > > > accurate,
>> >>> > > > > > > you need someone who understands the concepts of the
>> >>> underlying
>> >>> > > > > > technology,
>> >>> > > > > > > to use appropriate terminology. Though I agree that the
>> >>> ability
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > > > > > distill
>> >>> > > > > > > complex technical concepts is more important when writing
>> >>> initial
>> >>> > > > > > > documentation.
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:47 AM Fabian Hueske <
>> >>> > > fhue...@gmail.com>
>> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks for the clarification Aizhamal!
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> This is really helpful and will make it a lot easier
>> to
>> >>> > > > coordinate
>> >>> > > > > > :-)
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> As for next steps, I found this email on the
>> >>> > > > > > d...@community.apache.org
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> mailing list:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> ==================================================
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Hi All,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of
>> >>> Docs
>> >>> > > > opened
>> >>> > > > > > > today
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the
>> ASF.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two
>> >>> techical
>> >>> > > > > writers.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per
>> >>> technical
>> >>> > > > writer
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising
>> :-)
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Each project that wants to participate must provide
>> two
>> >>> > mentors
>> >>> > > > for
>> >>> > > > > > > each
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> documentation project.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> As part of the application process there are a few
>> things
>> >>> > that
>> >>> > > we
>> >>> > > > > > need
>> >>> > > > > > > to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> setup.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of
>> Docs
>> >>> that
>> >>> > > > > contains
>> >>> > > > > > > the
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have
>> created a
>> >>> > page
>> >>> > > on
>> >>> > > > > the
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table
>> for
>> >>> > > projects
>> >>> > > > > to
>> >>> > > > > > > >> record
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> their ideas.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 2. Alternative administrator.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as
>> the
>> >>> > > > > alternative
>> >>> > > > > > > >> admin
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you
>> will
>> >>> > also
>> >>> > > > need
>> >>> > > > > > to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you
>> >>> the
>> >>> > link
>> >>> > > > > > > offline)
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 3. Mentors
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> All mentors from the projects interested in
>> participating
>> >>> > must
>> >>> > > > > > register
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> individually at the following link :
>> >>> > > > > > > https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66
>> >>> > > > > > > >> .
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer
>> >>> > > > Collaboration
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> There is a section to fill in about experience with
>> >>> > > documentation
>> >>> > > > > and
>> >>> > > > > > > any
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know
>> a
>> >>> few
>> >>> > > > > projects
>> >>> > > > > > > have
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure
>> >>> about any
>> >>> > > > > > technical
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then
>> please
>> >>> let
>> >>> > me
>> >>> > > > > know)
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> There is a section to complete at our participation in
>> >>> GSoC.I
>> >>> > > > > think I
>> >>> > > > > > > >> have
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> the details from our application this year so can
>> follow
>> >>> up
>> >>> > > with
>> >>> > > > > > Maxim
>> >>> > > > > > > or
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Uli about it
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the
>> >>> 23rd
>> >>> > > April
>> >>> > > > > > 2019
>> >>> > > > > > > to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want
>> to
>> >>> have
>> >>> > it
>> >>> > > > > done
>> >>> > > > > > > well
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> before then :-)
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Please pass on this information within your various
>> >>> projects
>> >>> > > and
>> >>> > > > as
>> >>> > > > > > > with
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to
>> >>> all
>> >>> > our
>> >>> > > > > > project
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> mailing lists.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Sharan
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> ==================================================
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> I guess, we would need to follow these steps as well.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Best,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Fabian
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Am Do., 11. Apr. 2019 um 05:08 Uhr schrieb Jark Wu <
>> >>> > > > > imj...@gmail.com
>> >>> > > > > > >:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Aizhamal,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> That's really interesting. We have an ongoing
>> proposal
>> >>> for
>> >>> > > > > > supporting
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Chinese documentation, see FLIP-35 [1].
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> I think it's a good idea to propose Chinese
>> translation
>> >>> as a
>> >>> > > > > > project.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> It's
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> a good chance to improve the localization user
>> >>> experience of
>> >>> > > > Flink
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> documentation.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> I can help as a mentor if we want to submit such a
>> >>> project.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Jark Wu
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> [1]:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-35%3A+Support+Chinese+Documents+and+Website
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:11, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> <aizha...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Hello everyone,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> @Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> - SoD setup is a
>> >>> little
>> >>> > > bit
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> different.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> The ASF determined that each project would be
>> allowed
>> >>> to
>> >>> > > apply
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> individually[1], rather than applying as a single
>> large
>> >>> > > > > > organization.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Each project applies as an org, with two organizers
>> >>> > > > (administers)
>> >>> > > > > > and
>> >>> > > > > > > >> at
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> least two mentors. As Konstantin pointed out, one
>> can
>> >>> be
>> >>> > both
>> >>> > > > an
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> administer
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> and a mentor. You don't need to coordinate with
>> other
>> >>> > > projects
>> >>> > > > or
>> >>> > > > > > ASF
>> >>> > > > > > > >> at
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> all. If accepted to the program, you will receive
>> >>> project
>> >>> > > > > proposals
>> >>> > > > > > > >> from
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> tech writers [2]. You will choose one or two
>> proposals
>> >>> that
>> >>> > > you
>> >>> > > > > > want
>> >>> > > > > > > >> to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> mentor[3].
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> @Ken - as for the language, there isn’t any
>> >>> limitations in
>> >>> > > that
>> >>> > > > > > > >> regard,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> so
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> work on the Chinese translation for the website is
>> >>> > definitely
>> >>> > > > an
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> acceptable
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> project.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Aizhamal
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> [1]
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/67e1c2e6041cff1e7f198b615407401f032795130e796adfaacf8071@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> [2]
>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> [3]
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq#slot-allocation
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 8:32 AM Ken Krugler <
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> kkrugler_li...@transpac.com>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Aizhamal,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> I assume SoD is language-agnostic, so one possible
>> >>> project
>> >>> > > > would
>> >>> > > > > > be
>> >>> > > > > > > >> to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> get
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> a tech writer for the Chinese versions of all of
>> the
>> >>> Flink
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> documentation,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> yes?
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> — Ken
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> <aizha...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> TL;DR If you need some improvements for Flink
>> >>> > > documentation,
>> >>> > > > > > apply
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Season of Docs before April 23rd.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Background:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Season of Docs is like Google Summer of Code, but
>> for
>> >>> > > > > > > >> documentation.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Projects write ideas on how they would like to
>> >>> improve
>> >>> > > their
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> documentation,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> then if they are accepted to the program, they
>> will
>> >>> get a
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> professional
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> tech
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> writer to work on the project’s documentation for
>> 3
>> >>> > months.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Technical
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> writer’s get stipend from Google.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> If you think that Apache Flink could benefit from
>> it,
>> >>> > > please
>> >>> > > > > > > >> submit
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> the
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> application before April 23rd.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> The program requires two administrators, to manage
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> organization's
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> participation in SoD, and at least two mentors to
>> >>> onboard
>> >>> > > > tech
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> writers to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> the project, and work with them closely during 3
>> >>> months
>> >>> > > > period
>> >>> > > > > > > >> [2].
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> To
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> be a
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> mentor in this program, you don't have to be a
>> >>> technical
>> >>> > > > > writer,
>> >>> > > > > > > >> but
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> you
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> must know Flink and the open source well to
>> >>> > > onboard/introduce
>> >>> > > > > > tech
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> writers
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to the project, and be able to support them during
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > whole
>> >>> > > > > > > >>> process.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I am an administrator for 2 Apache projects, and
>> >>> will be
>> >>> > > more
>> >>> > > > > > than
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> happy
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> share my knowledge on this, if you, as an
>> >>> organization
>> >>> > > decide
>> >>> > > > > to
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> apply.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think it will be great if Flink participates in
>> it
>> >>> too!
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Aizhamal
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/
>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [2]
>> >>> > > > https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > --------------------------
>> >>> > > > > > > Ken Krugler
>> >>> > > > > > > +1 530-210-6378
>> >>> > > > > > > http://www.scaleunlimited.com
>> >>> > > > > > > Custom big data solutions & training
>> >>> > > > > > > Flink, Solr, Hadoop, Cascading & Cassandra
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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