Thanks for the feedback, Shaoxuan.

I'll create a FLIP then. Good point about documentation. I'll put together
a doc on the website once we agreed upon the detail metric specifications.

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:10 PM Shaoxuan Wang <wshaox...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Becket,
>
> Thanks for the proposal. I am much agree that we should only design the
> standard/common Flink-related connector metrics, while keep the original
> names for the ones provided by the connector itself. If everyone agrees to
> make these changes, we should do it asap, the earlier to make the change
> the less impact on the user's system. Maybe we can start to unify the
> metrics on the existing connectors, and then slowly introduce the new
> common/standard metrics if necessary.
>
> Since metric is also a kind of user interface, we should either open a
> Flip, or create a webpage to document the specifications, it's up to you.
> The point is that we want to create a good document, such that the future
> developers can easily find and follow these specifications.
>
> Regards,
> Shaoxuan
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:15 PM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the feedback, Konstantin,
> >
> > Completely agree that exposing the original metrics from the clients of
> > other systems is a good practice and should be encouraged.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:01 PM Konstantin Knauf <
> > konstan...@da-platform.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Becket,
> > >
> > > I like the idea of providing a standard set of metrics, which sources
> can
> > > choose to implement/expose. In addition, I think, sources, like the
> Kafka
> > > or Kinesis Source, should continue to forward the original consumer
> > metrics
> > > under their original names, so that users familiar with Kafka/Kinesis
> can
> > > relate to them easily.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Konstantin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 3:54 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the connector metric url,  Chesnay :)
> > > >
> > > > @Robert, as you can see, the metrics from different connectors are
> > quite
> > > > different. And there are different names for similar metrics, which
> is
> > a
> > > > little frustrating when users want to do monitoring / alerting.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:41 PM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > @Robert:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/monitoring/metrics.html#connectors
> > > > >
> > > > > On 31.01.2019 11:03, Robert Metzger wrote:
> > > > > > Hey Becket,
> > > > > > thanks a lot for your proposal!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have an overview over the current situation of the metrics
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > connectors?
> > > > > > Which connectors expose metrics at all?
> > > > > > Are they different?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:44 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi folks,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I was trying to add some metrics to Kafka connectors and
> realized
> > > that
> > > > > >> right now Flink does not have a common metric definition for the
> > > > > >> connectors. This complicates the monitoring and operation
> because
> > > the
> > > > > >> monitoring / alerts need to be set case by case.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> To address this issue, I would like to see if is possible to
> have
> > a
> > > > set
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> standardized common metrics for all sources and sinks. The
> > following
> > > > doc
> > > > > >> describes the proposal. Feedback is very welcome.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q86bgj_3T6WFbSUoxLDJJXmUcBOUcvWfh2RZvHG-nPU/edit#
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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