Hi everyone,

thx for all the feedback. I created now
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10705 with sub tickets to
tackle this. i also found some time this weekend and implemented the first
draft, which i will post in the ticket (not sure if i get the pictures to
work here in the mailing list :-D).

Lets continue discussion in the tickets then.

Since this is my first bigger contribution to Flink, please advise on how
to handle tickets, and structure the work. But for now i will just continue
to work on this, whenever i find free time.

Cheers

--


*Fabian WollertZalando SE*

E-Mail: fab...@zalando.de


Am Sa., 27. Okt. 2018 um 17:15 Uhr schrieb Robert Metzger <
rmetz...@apache.org>:

> Hey,
> Sorry for the delay.
>
> Yes -- I would be open to revisit the underlying technologies.
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:28 AM Fabian Wollert <fab...@zalando.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone, thx for all the comments and feedback. Let me address
> > everything individually:
> >
> > @Till: yes, for the start my plan would be to just touch the
> > flink-runtime-web/web-dashboard repo/folder.
> >
> > @Jin Sun:
> >
> >    - smaller icons on increasing server counts: yes, thats also
> something i
> >    already thought about. will keep it in mind when realizing the first
> >    version!
> >    - about locality: i searched quickly through the docs, but i could not
> >    find anything regarding flink featuring rack awareness. Is this
> > something
> >    already implemented? If not, i think this will bloat the size of this
> >    initial proposal. If its somewhere already included, we could
> implement
> > it
> >    for sure.
> >
> > @Zhijiang:the focus of this redesign was not yet including the job list
> in
> > the lower half of the overview. as part of the redesign we can also think
> > about optimising this list though, and removing unnecessary columns is
> > usually the most easy thing to do. we can maybe create a separate ticket
> > for this as well and discuss this issue there, to not bloat the initial
> > discussion with too much topics.
> >
> > @Robert:
> >
> >    - Agreed that it might make sense to also show this on job level.
> Since
> >    these metrics are probably gonna be introduced later only anyways, we
> > can
> >    discuss this maybe then separately after FLINK-9050
> >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9050> (linked the wrong
> >    ticket in my initial mail) is done.
> >    - Rewriting the whole thing while doing this also came to my mind.
> What
> >    i would like to do anyways (even if we stick for now to A1) is to
> remove
> >    bower as a package manager (since its deprecated) and update bootstrap
> > to
> >    V4. I will check what the additional effort is to move to React/Redux.
> >    We're working with this here at work as well, so implementing at
> least a
> >    first MVP might be feasible as well, before getting to deep into A1
> >    specifics. But that basically means that you guys are open to change
> the
> >    underlying web/JS technology, yeah?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > *Fabian WollertZalando SE*
> >
> > E-Mail: fab...@zalando.de
> >
> >
> > Am Mi., 10. Okt. 2018 um 08:41 Uhr schrieb Robert Metzger <
> > rmetz...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Hey Fabian,
> > > thanks a lot for reaching out to the Flink community with this
> proposal!
> > > (Posting to the ML instead of creating a JIRA is a good idea for such
> > > questions -- you can create a ticket/tickets once the discussion here
> has
> > > come to a conclusion)
> > >
> > > I have two comments:
> > > - You are listing Records/Kb in and Records/Kb out as cluster-wide
> > metrics.
> > > I wonder whether we should rather show these metrics for each job,
> > instead
> > > of the entire cluster? (or maybe both). My concern is that the
> > cluster-wide
> > > metric is not really relevant as soon as you have jobs with different
> > > characteristics running on one cluster
> > > - You mention that the Flink UI is based on Angular 1. I've been
> thinking
> > > for quite a while now whether we should actually rewrite / migrate the
> > > Flink UI to React.
> > > Do you think we can re-use most of the work you'd be doing for this
> > change
> > > when we migrate to React?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 8:24 AM Zhijiang(wangzhijiang999)
> > > <wangzhijiang...@aliyun.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Fabian for proposing this topic.
> > > >
> > > > It is very worth improving the web dashborad for showing more useful
> > > > informations which can benefit flink users a lot.
> > > >
> > > > Just two small personal concerns:
> > > > 1. The start time and end time are already given, so it is easy to
> > > > estimate the rough duration time. Is it necessary to show the
> duration
> > > > information to occupy the space?
> > > > 2. The job name given by users can be used for identification, and
> the
> > > > job id is automatically generated in random. I am not sure whether
> this
> > > id
> > > > is useful for further debugging. If not maybe we can ignore the job
> id
> > > from
> > > > the dashboard?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Zhijiang
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > 发件人:Jin Sun <isun...@gmail.com>
> > > > 发送时间:2018年10月10日(星期三) 01:10
> > > > 收件人:dev <dev@flink.apache.org>
> > > > 主 题:Re: [DISCUSS] Flink Cluster Overview Dashboard Improvement
> Proposal
> > > >
> > > > Great job! That would very helpful for debug.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    - I would suggest to use small icons for this Job Manager/Managers
> > > >    when there are too many instances (like a thousand)
> > > >    - May be we can also introduce locality,  that task managers
> belongs
> > > >    to same rack shows together?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Small icons can be like this:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 9, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > mation on the front
> > > > page. Your mock looks really promising to me since it shows some
> basic
> > > > metrics and cluster information at a glance. Apart from the the
> source
> > > > input and sink output metrics, all other required information should
> be
> > > > available to display it in the dashboard. Thus, your proposal should
> > only
> > > > affect flink-runtime-web which should make it easier to realize.
> > > >
> > > > I'm in favour of adding this feature to Flink's dashboard to make it
> > > > available to the whole community.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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