+1 to adding links In fact, all points should link to some documentation part.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Gyula Fóra <gyula.f...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think the content is pretty good, much better than before. But the page > structure could be better (and this is very important in my opinion). > Now it just looks like a long list of features without any ways to navigate > between them. We should probably have something at the top that summarizes > the page. > > And maybe at the specific points we should add links to other pages (for > instance internals pages). > > Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> ezt írta (időpont: 2015. júl. 7., K, > 13:22): > > > I actually put quite some thought into the structure of the points. They > > reflect pretty much what I observed (meetups and talks) where people get > > excited and what they are missing. > > > > The structure follows the line of through of "stream processor that also > > does batch very well". And then separate the features as they contribute > to > > that. > > > > Intermixing features across their relation to streaming and batch has not > > worked out for my presentations at all. It came across that Flink is a > > system with a multitude of aspects, but no one in the audience could > really > > say what Flink is good at in the end, where it stands out. > > > > The proposed structure makes this very clear: > > > > - Flink is a kick-ass stream processor (Strongest differentiation > > from all other technology) > > - Flink can also do batch very well (It is broadly applicable > > and strong) > > - It surfaces nice APIs and rich libraries (Low entry hurdle) > > - It plays well with existing technology > > > > > > Stephan > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > +1 for the clear and brief feature descriptions! > > > > > > I am not so sure about the structure of the points, especially > separating > > > "Streaming" and "Batch and Streaming in One System" does not support > the > > > message of a unified system, IMO. > > > > > > How about categorizing the points into three sections (Internals, API, > > > Integration) and structuring the points for example as follows: > > > > > > -- High Performance, Robust Execution, and Fault-tolerance > > > High performance > > > Continuous Streaming Model with Flow Control > > > Fault-tolerance via Lightweight Distributed Snapshots > > > Memory Management > > > Iterations and Delta Iterations > > > > > > -- Ease of use, APIs, and Clear Semantics > > > One runtime for Streaming and Batch Processing > > > Expressive APIs (Batch + Streaming) > > > Exactly-once Semantics for Stateful Computations > > > Program Optimizer > > > Library Ecosystem > > > > > > -- Integration > > > Broad Integration > > > > > > Cheers, Fabian > > > > > > 2015-07-07 10:39 GMT+02:00 Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > I also like the new feature page. I better conveys the strong points > of > > > > Flink, since it's more to the point. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Max! > > > > > > > > > > Did not even know we had a github mirror of the flink-web repo... > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the feature page update. I think it is much more > > > informative > > > > > and > > > > > > better structured now. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you could also open a pull request for your changes > on > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pulls > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Max > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be happy to help, eh draw ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-07-06 15:22 GMT+02:00 Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that the "Features" page of the website is a bit out > of > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made an effort to stub a new one. It is committed under " > > > > > > > features_new.md > > > > > > > > " > > > > > > > > and not yet built as an HTML page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to take a look and help building this, pull the > > > > flink-web > > > > > > git > > > > > > > > repository and build the website locally. You can then look > at > > it > > > > > > under " > > > > > > > > http://localhost:4000/index_new.html"; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So far, I am happy with the new contents. Three things remain > > to > > > be > > > > > > done: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) The page misses a figure on Streaming throughput and > > latency. > > > > > > > Currently, > > > > > > > > I am using a figure from some preliminary measurements made > by > > > > > Marton. > > > > > > > > IIRC, Robert is running some performance tests right now and > we > > > can > > > > > use > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > results to create a new figure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) The figures could use some love. The concept is good, but > > the > > > > > style > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > bit sterile. I was hoping that Fabian would help out with his > > > > amazing > > > > > > > style > > > > > > > > of drawing figures ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) More people should have a look and say if we should > replace > > > the > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > "Features" page with this new one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
