> Judging by the levels of understanding I've witnessed here...

I don't think you came here to contribute to the project. I think you came
here to vent. Let it out...

At the end of the day I just want to create cool websites, apps and
experiences. I don't care if Flash or AIR is popular or not. It works. I
love the Flash platform and the workflow. I can make great games and apps
extremely fast and I don't turn into the incredible hulk smashing
everything in the process. I can't say the same for HTML or Objective C.
Yes, it would be awesome if Adobe invested more in it but that's the
current state of affairs at the moment.

And just because there's a shiny new set of tools that promise to add the
features you need (but in reality doesn't support all of them yet!) doesn't
mean you should throw out your current tools. You still gotta go on the job
and make something work. And guess what? The user doesn't care what
technology you use. They don't care if your hammer is a Remington super
steel or a Binford 2000. They just want to play their game and have a great
user experience. I'll say it again, the end user, the person using your
software doesn't care what technology you use. For fun, try telling a
construction worker his tools are obsolete and his career is over.
Technologies turnover all the time all claiming they're better than the
last one and the trend is to throw everything away. With that perspective
you'll be learning a new language and workflow every year.


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Jesse Nicholson <ascensionsyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> You made it clear you're in maintenance mode and that this project is
> actually for corporate interest when you told me to hush and not use words
> that might upset adobe customers. I think the broken piece of garbage mail
> unsubscribe function might work this time (3rd time), so I probably won't
> see your response. Have fun guys. 700 likes on facebook in 3 years, I can
> see your project is going places.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 12/9/14, 2:56 PM, "Jesse Nicholson" <ascensionsyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >Okay so,
> > >
> > >"you may have missed folks who occasionally ask if, for example Flash
> > >Player version N is going to stop running their existing Flex apps.
> These
> > >folks can have significant investments in large code bases and it would
> be
> > >very stressful and expensive from them to have to rush to get off of
> Flash
> > >for some other HTML/JS solution."
> > >
> > >Right, Adobe's customers are watching and we don't want to upset them.
> >
> > Whether they continue to buy from Adobe or not, no sense making
> statements
> > that aren’t completely true and make folks worry more than they need to.
> >
> > >
> > >2 points here. So Adobe isn't investing to make the platform that this
> > >framework relies on to compete with modern development, which is moving
> to
> > >web-framework for everything. But, it's not "dead". So, it's
> maintaining.
> >
> > OK, from the perspective of a web-apps platform, it could be fair to say
> > that Flash is in “maintenance”.  And that means it is fine to continue
> use
> > it.  The new features for web-apps should come from the Flex community,
> > and less so the runtime.  But for sure, the Flash Player team continues
> to
> > make improvements in each release though, just not focused on web-apps.
> >
> > >Hmm, well. This effort is dead. Oh oops, sorry, it's very much alive, if
> > >by
> > >alive you mean maintaining the software to keep adobe's clients happy.
> > >Take
> > >care guys.
> >
> > I think it is pretty clear that Flex is not in maintenance mode.  And
> > positive attitudes will enable us to get more done.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jesse Nicholson
>

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