On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> OK, I think you may need to ask INFRA if there is something we can do. It > might be blocked at a different level. > > I think it will be better if you initiated it with Infra. The reason i say that is that I have read similar threads in other projects where Infra had instructions for the list moderators. Thanks, Om > > On 4/28/13 10:45 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > >> I sent you an email from the mailto the robot picked up. > >> > >> > > Got it. Tried to send an email, but got a mailer daemon notice: > > > > <comm...@flex.apache.org>: > > Must be sent from an @apache.org address. > > > > I wonder why the invite dint reach me in the first place... > > > > Thanks, > > Om > > > > > > > >> > >> On 4/28/13 9:38 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Tried On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> OK, I added you. Did you get an email from the list robot? > >>>> > >>> > >>> No I dint get any invite email. Can you check if you got the email id > >>> right? > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Also, I realized I submitted noreply@ incorrectly so in theory it is > >> added > >>>> now. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I tried it again. I dont see anything on the commits list. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Give it a try. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I will set up my mail forwarding and try again. Not sure if it will > work > >>> without me being added to the commits list... > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 4/28/13 8:58 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Om, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It doesn't seem to be working. I think the alias I add still has to > >>>> accept > >>>>>> and have someone return a confirmation email. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Makes sense. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> What would be a plan B? Could you set up an autoforwarding rule on > >> your > >>>>>> inbox that forwards the notifications to commits? I'm ok with > >> requiring > >>>>>> each committer who has a whiteboard to have to do something like > that > >> if > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> popular email systems allow it. I use outlook/entourage so I think > I > >>>> can > >>>>>> do > >>>>>> it, but I don't use gmail so I don't know if it can. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Can you add my email id: bigosma...@gmail.com to the allow list? I > >> can > >>>> try > >>>>> your idea of forwarding the emails from github. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Om > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 4/27/13 3:39 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Looks like I am a moderator. I think I correctly added > >>>> notifications@so > >>>>>>>> try again and let's see what happens. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My bad, can you please add nore...@github.com to the allow list > >>>> instead? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 5:18 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:55 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > >>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I just sent an email from my adobe.com account to commits@. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I got back a rejection that it had to come from my > >>>> apache.orgaddress. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> That explains it. I sent an email as my apache.org address, > but > >>>> from > >>>>>>>> an > >>>>>>>>>> alias like how GitHub sends the emails. I also got a rejection > >>>>>>>>>> notification. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Greg, any chance you can use your moderator super powers to help > >>>> this > >>>>>>>>>> situation? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I found this nugget buried inside a similar discussion here [1] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The moderator can send an email to: > commits-allow-flex.apache.org= > >>>>>>>>> notificati...@github.com (or something like that) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd8XWd > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> U > >>>>>>>>> OuVtb90kOYhxX1rcW9bh=1z49dmn+z_hu9kv...@mail.gmail.com%3E > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 4:15 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > bigosma...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Greg Reddin < > gred...@gmail.com > >>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any mod requests yet. I'm traveling this > weekend > >>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>> have limited network access. I will try to look into it again > >>>> next > >>>>>>>>>>> week if > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see anything before. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile device. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It should have appeared. Could the list be filtering it > before > >>>> you > >>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> chance to moderate it? Maybe you could add > >>>>>> notifications@github.comtothe > >>>>>>>>>>>> safe sender list before I try again? Notifications sent to my > >>>>>>>> personal > >>>>>>>>>>>> email id works fine. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Anything else I could be missing? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:42 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala < > >>>>>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > >>>>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Greg Reddin < > >>>> gred...@gmail.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a moderator. Assuming the mails don't cause the spam > >>>> filter > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>> engaged, I'll moderate them through. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Great! I just sent out a test notification to > >>>>>>>>>>>> commits@flex.apache.orgfrom GitHub. Can you check if it came > >>>>>>>> through? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Another alternative would be to ask the committers to use > >> their > >>>>>>>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids for their GitHub email ids. And we can > >>>> select > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> option of > >>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub sending the email from the Author's email. This way > >>>> there > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>>>> moderation required because commits@f.a.o seems to allow all > >>>>>>>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub validates the email addresses before it sends emails > >>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>> those > >>>>>>>>>>>> addresses. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I've sent another test email notification this time from my > >>>>>>>>>>>> bigosma...@apache.org address. It did not automatically come > >>>>>>>> through > >>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>> expected. Please take a look. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > >>>>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Harui < > >>>> aha...@adobe.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear. I think a key aspect of whiteboards on > >>>>>>>>>>> GitHub > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> have a commit to your whiteboard be seen on the > >>>>>>>>>>> commits@flex.a.olistby > >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone subscribed to commits@f.a.o without other work on > >>>>>> their > >>>>>>>>>>> part > >>>>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>>>> signing up with GitHub or being added as a member of the an > >>>>>>>>>>>> "organization". > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We can't get an email to commits@f.a.o to happen for all > >>>>>>>>>>> activity on > >>>>>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard? > >>>>>>>>>>>> Short answer: it is doable. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Long answer: > >>>>>>>>>>>> I can add an organization-wide notification setting to send > >>>>>>>> emails > >>>>>>>>>>> to: > >>>>>>>>>>>> comm...@flex.apache.org. The only problem is the list > >>>>>> moderator > >>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>> commits@f.a.o should manually add notificati...@github.com to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> list > >>>>>>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>>>>>> that the emails can go through. Who is the moderator of > >>>>>>>>>>> commits@f.a.o > >>>>>>>>>>>> ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 11:04 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > >>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Alex Harui < > >>>>>> aha...@adobe.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for working on this. Some questions: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) do you have this actually setup? If so, can you commit > >>>>>>>>>>>> something > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard so I can see what the notification email looks > >>>>>>>> like? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but with a private account. I can add you as a member of > >>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>> test > >>>>>>>>>>>> organization. > >>>>>>>>>>>> We can 'watch' repos and notifications emails can be > >>>>>> configured > >>>>>>>>>>> [1], > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > >>>>>>>>>>>> More details on Organiations available here [3] > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) When the contributor sends the pull request, how does the > >>>>>>>>>>>> committer > >>>>>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>>> notified? Can an email go to the commits list? Or does the > >>>>>>>>>>>> committer > >>>>>>>>>>>> only > >>>>>>>>>>>> get notified off-list? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We should be able to make the notifications go to any and > >>>>>>>>>>> multiple > >>>>>>>>>>>> email > >>>>>>>>>>>> ids [4]. We will have to add the <notificati...@github.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> email > >>>>>>>>>>>> id > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> our list. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://help.github.com/articles/watching-repositories > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-notification-emails > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] https://help.github.com/categories/2/articles > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4] > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >> > https://help.github.com/articles/notifications#per-organization-email-routin > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> g > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 10:27 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > >>>>>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been experimenting with a GitHub based workflow for the > >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard > >>>>>>>>>>>> repos for our committers. Here is the workflow I would like > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> propose: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Apache Flex creates an 'Organization' account GitHub > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Each Apache Flex committer is encouraged to create an > >>>>>>>>>>> account on > >>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub > >>>>>>>>>>>> * The committer then posts their GitHub id on > >>>>>>>>>>>> dev@flex.apache.organd > >>>>>>>>>>>> asks > >>>>>>>>>>>> to be added to the ApacheFlex@GitHub account > >>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex PMC will add the committer's GitHub id to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> ApacheFlex@GitHub account. > >>>>>>>>>>>> * In the contributing.md file [1] at the root of each > >>>>>>>>>>> committer's > >>>>>>>>>>>> github > >>>>>>>>>>>> project, there will be information about Apache's contribution > >>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines > >>>>>>>>>>>> including a link to the ICLA [2] > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Any public contributor is free to fork an ApacheFlex > >>>>>>>>>>> committer's > >>>>>>>>>>>> github > >>>>>>>>>>>> project. > >>>>>>>>>>>> * The contributor makes a few modifications and is ready to > >>>>>>>>>>> send a > >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Pull > >>>>>>>>>>>> request' to the Apache Flex committer > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Before the 'Pull Request' can be sent, GitHub will > >>>>>>>>>>> automatically > >>>>>>>>>>>> point > >>>>>>>>>>>> the contributor to take a look at the contribution guidelines > >>>>>>>>>>>> first. > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Theoretically the contributor reads the contribution > >>>>>>>>>>> guidelines, > >>>>>>>>>>>> agrees > >>>>>>>>>>>> to it implicitly and clicks the 'Send Pull Request' button. > >>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex Committer now will have a chance to peruse > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> commits > >>>>>>>>>>>> and decide whether or not to accept the pull request. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There is another alternative I have been working on as well. > >>>>>>>>>>>> There > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> CLAHub [3] plugin for GitHub. The workflow for this is > >>>>>>>>>>> described > >>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> same link [3]. I have been experimenting with this plugin but > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>> found > >>>>>>>>>>>> various issues with it. I am currently working with the > >>>>>>>>>>> plugin's > >>>>>>>>>>>> creator, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Morrison and support@GitHub to fix these issues. They > >>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>>>>>> helpful so far. I hope to be able to fix all the issues soon > >>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> send > >>>>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>>>> a demo. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if the above mentioned steps are sufficient > >>>>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>>>>> something like CLAHub plugin would be better. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/blog/1184-contributing-guidelines > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.clahub.com/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui > >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team > >>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui > >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team > >>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui > >>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team > >>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Alex Harui > >>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team > >>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Alex Harui > >>>>>> Flex SDK Team > >>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Alex Harui > >>>> Flex SDK Team > >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> -- > >> Alex Harui > >> Flex SDK Team > >> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >> > >> > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >
