On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:

> I sent you an email from the mailto the robot picked up.
>
>
Got it.  Tried to send an email, but got a mailer daemon notice:

<comm...@flex.apache.org>:
Must be sent from an @apache.org address.

I wonder why the invite dint reach me in the first place...

Thanks,
Om



>
> On 4/28/13 9:38 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tried On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> OK, I added you.  Did you get an email from the list robot?
> >>
> >
> > No I dint get any invite email.  Can you check if you got the email id
> > right?
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Also, I realized I submitted noreply@ incorrectly so in theory it is
> added
> >> now.
> >>
> >
> > I tried it again.  I dont see anything on the commits list.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Give it a try.
> >>
> >
> > I will set up my mail forwarding and try again.  Not sure if it will work
> > without me being added to the commits list...
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/28/13 8:58 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Om,
> >>>>
> >>>> It doesn't seem to be working.  I think the alias I add still has to
> >> accept
> >>>> and have someone return a confirmation email.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Makes sense.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> What would be a plan B?  Could you set up an autoforwarding rule on
> your
> >>>> inbox that forwards the notifications to commits?  I'm ok with
> requiring
> >>>> each committer who has a whiteboard to have to do something like that
> if
> >>>> the
> >>>> popular email systems allow it.  I use outlook/entourage so I think I
> >> can
> >>>> do
> >>>> it, but I don't use gmail so I don't know if it can.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Can you add my email id: bigosma...@gmail.com to the allow list?  I
> can
> >> try
> >>> your idea of forwarding the emails from github.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Om
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/27/13 3:39 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Looks like I am a moderator.  I think I correctly added
> >> notifications@so
> >>>>>> try again and let's see what happens.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> My bad, can you please add nore...@github.com to the allow list
> >> instead?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Om
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/26/13 5:18 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:55 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just sent an email from my adobe.com account to commits@.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I got back a rejection that it had to come from my
> >> apache.orgaddress.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That explains it.  I sent an email as my apache.org address, but
> >> from
> >>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>> alias like how GitHub sends the emails.  I also got a rejection
> >>>>>>>> notification.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Greg, any chance you can use your moderator super powers to help
> >> this
> >>>>>>>> situation?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I found this nugget buried inside a similar discussion here [1]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The moderator can send an email to: commits-allow-flex.apache.org=
> >>>>>>> notificati...@github.com (or something like that)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd8XWd
> >>>>>>
> >>>> U
> >>>>>>> OuVtb90kOYhxX1rcW9bh=1z49dmn+z_hu9kv...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 4:15 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Greg Reddin <gred...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any mod requests yet. I'm traveling this weekend
> >> and
> >>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>> have limited network access. I will try to look into it again
> >> next
> >>>>>>>>> week if
> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't see anything before.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile device.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It should have appeared.  Could the list be filtering it before
> >> you
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> chance to moderate it?  Maybe you could add
> >>>> notifications@github.comtothe
> >>>>>>>>>> safe sender list before I try again?  Notifications sent to my
> >>>>>> personal
> >>>>>>>>>> email id works fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I could be missing?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:42 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >>>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Greg Reddin <
> >> gred...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a moderator. Assuming the mails don't cause the spam
> >> filter
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> engaged, I'll moderate them through.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Great!  I just sent out a test notification to
> >>>>>>>>>>> commits@flex.apache.orgfrom GitHub.  Can you check if it came
> >>>>>> through?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Another alternative would be to ask the committers to use
> their
> >>>>>>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids for their GitHub email ids.  And we can
> >> select
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> option of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub sending the email from the Author's email.  This way
> >> there
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>> moderation required because commits@f.a.o seems to allow all
> >>>>>>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub validates the email addresses before it sends emails
> >> from
> >>>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>>> addresses.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've sent another test email notification this time from my
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bigosma...@apache.org address. It did not automatically come
> >>>>>> through
> >>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> expected.  Please take a look.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Harui <
> >> aha...@adobe.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear.  I think a key aspect of whiteboards on
> >>>>>>>>> GitHub
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have a commit to your whiteboard be seen on the
> >>>>>>>>> commits@flex.a.olistby
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone subscribed to commits@f.a.o without other work on
> >>>> their
> >>>>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>> signing up with GitHub or being added as a member of the an
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "organization".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can't get an email to commits@f.a.o to happen for all
> >>>>>>>>> activity on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Short answer: it is doable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Long answer:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can add an organization-wide notification setting to send
> >>>>>> emails
> >>>>>>>>> to:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> comm...@flex.apache.org.  The only problem is the list
> >>>> moderator
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> commits@f.a.o should manually add notificati...@github.com to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that the emails can go through.  Who is the moderator of
> >>>>>>>>> commits@f.a.o
> >>>>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 11:04 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
> >>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Alex Harui <
> >>>> aha...@adobe.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for working on this.  Some questions:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) do you have this actually setup?  If so, can you commit
> >>>>>>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard so I can see what the notification email looks
> >>>>>> like?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but with a private account.  I can add you as a member of
> >>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> test
> >>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can 'watch' repos and notifications emails can be
> >>>> configured
> >>>>>>>>> [1],
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> More details on Organiations available here [3]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) When the contributor sends the pull request, how does the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>>> notified?   Can an email go to the commits list?  Or does the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get notified off-list?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We should be able to make the notifications go to any and
> >>>>>>>>> multiple
> >>>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ids [4].  We will have to add the <notificati...@github.com>
> >>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>> id
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> our list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://help.github.com/articles/watching-repositories
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-notification-emails
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] https://help.github.com/categories/2/articles
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://help.github.com/articles/notifications#per-organization-email-routin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> g
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 10:27 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
> >>>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been experimenting with a GitHub based workflow for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard
> >>>>>>>>>>>> repos for our committers.  Here is the workflow I would like
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> propose:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Apache Flex creates an 'Organization' account GitHub
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Each Apache Flex committer is encouraged to create an
> >>>>>>>>> account on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The committer then posts their GitHub id on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> dev@flex.apache.organd
> >>>>>>>>>>>> asks
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to be added to the ApacheFlex@GitHub account
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex PMC will add the committer's GitHub id to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ApacheFlex@GitHub account.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * In the contributing.md file [1] at the root of each
> >>>>>>>>> committer's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>> project, there will be information about Apache's contribution
> >>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>> including a link to the ICLA [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Any public contributor is free to fork an ApacheFlex
> >>>>>>>>> committer's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The contributor makes a few modifications and is ready to
> >>>>>>>>> send a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Pull
> >>>>>>>>>>>> request' to the Apache Flex committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Before the 'Pull Request' can be sent, GitHub will
> >>>>>>>>> automatically
> >>>>>>>>>>>> point
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the contributor to take a look at the contribution guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>> first.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Theoretically the contributor reads the contribution
> >>>>>>>>> guidelines,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> agrees
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to it implicitly and clicks the 'Send Pull Request' button.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex Committer now will have a chance to peruse
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> commits
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and decide whether or not to accept the pull request.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is another alternative I have been working on as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> CLAHub [3] plugin for GitHub.  The workflow for this is
> >>>>>>>>> described
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> same link [3].  I have been experimenting with this plugin but
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> found
> >>>>>>>>>>>> various issues with it.  I am currently working with the
> >>>>>>>>> plugin's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> creator,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Morrison and support@GitHub to fix these issues.  They
> >>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>>>> helpful so far.  I hope to be able to fix all the issues soon
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> send
> >>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a demo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if the above mentioned steps are sufficient
> >>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>> something like CLAHub plugin would be better.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/blog/1184-contributing-guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.clahub.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Alex Harui
> >>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alex Harui
> >> Flex SDK Team
> >> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>

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