On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 04:53:15AM +0000, Xueming(Steven) Li wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrien Mazarguil <adrien.mazarg...@6wind.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:03 AM
> > To: Xueming(Steven) Li <xuemi...@mellanox.com>
> > Cc: Nélio Laranjeiro <nelio.laranje...@6wind.com>; Shahaf Shuler 
> > <shah...@mellanox.com>; dev@dpdk.org;
> > Olivier Matz <olivier.m...@6wind.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/14] net/mlx5: support Rx tunnel type 
> > identification
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 03:27:37PM +0000, Xueming(Steven) Li wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Adrien Mazarguil <adrien.mazarg...@6wind.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:48 PM
> > > > To: Xueming(Steven) Li <xuemi...@mellanox.com>
> > > > Cc: Nélio Laranjeiro <nelio.laranje...@6wind.com>; Shahaf Shuler
> > > > <shah...@mellanox.com>; dev@dpdk.org; Olivier Matz
> > > > <olivier.m...@6wind.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/14] net/mlx5: support Rx tunnel type
> > > > identification
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 01:32:49PM +0000, Xueming(Steven) Li wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Adrien Mazarguil <adrien.mazarg...@6wind.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:28 PM
> > > > > > To: Xueming(Steven) Li <xuemi...@mellanox.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Nélio Laranjeiro <nelio.laranje...@6wind.com>; Shahaf Shuler
> > > > > > <shah...@mellanox.com>; dev@dpdk.org; Olivier Matz
> > > > > > <olivier.m...@6wind.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/14] net/mlx5: support Rx tunnel type
> > > > > > identification
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:05:13AM +0000, Xueming(Steven) Li wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Nélio Laranjeiro <nelio.laranje...@6wind.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:29 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Xueming(Steven) Li <xuemi...@mellanox.com>
> > > > > > > > Cc: Shahaf Shuler <shah...@mellanox.com>; dev@dpdk.org;
> > > > > > > > Olivier Matz <olivier.m...@6wind.com>; Adrien Mazarguil
> > > > > > > > <adrien.mazarg...@6wind.com>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/14] net/mlx5: support Rx tunnel
> > > > > > > > type identification
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 12:57:58PM +0000, Xueming(Steven) Li 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > +Adrien
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Nélio Laranjeiro <nelio.laranje...@6wind.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:03 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Xueming(Steven) Li <xuemi...@mellanox.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: Shahaf Shuler <shah...@mellanox.com>; dev@dpdk.org;
> > > > > > > > > > Olivier Matz <olivier.m...@6wind.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/14] net/mlx5: support Rx
> > > > > > > > > > tunnel type identification
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +Olivier,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 07:20:13PM +0800, Xueming Li wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > This patch introduced tunnel type identification based on 
> > > > > > > > > > > flow rules.
> > > > > > > > > > > If flows of multiple tunnel types built on same queue,
> > > > > > > > > > > RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_MASK will be returned, user
> > > > > > > > > > > application could use bits in flow mark as tunnel type 
> > > > > > > > > > > identifier.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For an application it will mean the packet embed all
> > > > > > > > > > tunnel types defined in DPDK, to make such thing you
> > > > > > > > > > need a RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_UNKNOWN which does not exists 
> > > > > > > > > > currently.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There was a RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_UNKNOWN definition, but
> > > > > > > > > removed due to
> > > > > > > > discussion.
> > > > > > > > > So I think it good to add it in the patchset of reviewed by 
> > > > > > > > > Adrien.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Agreed,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Even with it, the application still needs to parse the
> > > > > > > > > > packet to discover which tunnel the packet embed, is
> > > > > > > > > > there any benefit having such bit?  Not so sure.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > With a tunnel flag, checksum status represent inner checksum.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not sure this is generic enough, MLX5 behaves as this, but
> > > > > > > > how behaves other NICs?  It should have specific bits for
> > > > > > > > inner checksum if all NIC don't have the same behavior.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From my understanding, if outer checksum invalid, the packet
> > > > > > > can't be received as a tunneled packet, but a normal packet,
> > > > > > > thus checksum flags always result of inner for a valid tunneled 
> > > > > > > packet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, since checksum validation information covers all layers at
> > > > > > once (outermost to the innermost recognized), the presence of an 
> > > > > > "unknown tunnel"
> > > > > > bit implicitly means outer headers are OK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now regarding the addition of RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_UNKNOWN, the main
> > > > > > issue I see is that it's implicit, as in getting 0 after and'ing
> > > > > > packet types with RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_MASK means either not present or 
> > > > > > unknown type.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about define RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_UNKNOWN same ask
> > > > > RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_MASK? And'ding packet types always return a non-zero 
> > > > > value.
> > > >
> > > > I mean the value already exists, it's implicitly 0. Adding one with
> > > > the same value as RTE_PTYPE_TUNNEL_MASK could be seen as a waste of
> > > > a value otherwise usable for an actual tunnel type (there are only 4 
> > > > bits).
> > > >
> > > > > > How about not setting any tunnel bit and let applications rely
> > > > > > on the presence of RTE_PTYPE_INNER_* to determine that there is
> > > > > > a tunnel of unknown type? The rationale being that a tunneled
> > > > > > packet without an inner payload is
> > > > kind of pointless anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > An unknown type doesn't break anything, neither enum bits, 
> > > > > straightforward IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind that mbuf packet types report what is identified. All
> > > > the definitions in this file name a specific protocol. For instance
> > > > there is no such definition as "L3 present" or "L4 present". "Tunnel 
> > > > present" doesn't make a lot
> > of sense on its own either.
> > > >
> > > > Don't you agree that reporting at least one inner ptype while
> > > > leaving tunnel ptype to 0 automatically addresses this issue?
> > >
> > > Currently, no inner L2 ptype, so for packet with only L2, it will be 
> > > recognized as non-tunnel packet.
> > 
> > Applications can live with it. Don't bother with a ptype API change at this 
> > point, it raises more
> > issues than it solves.
> > 
> > Given the size of the series, let's deal with that later through a separate 
> > task and according to user
> > feedback.
> 
> Nelio, so I'll leave it as it is, are you okay with it?

I agree with Adrien, if you are not able to say which kind of tunnel it
is, don't set it in the mbuf.

Regards,

-- 
Nélio Laranjeiro
6WIND

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