On 16-Feb-21 5:44 PM, Van Haaren, Harry wrote:
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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richard...@intel.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:31 PM
To: Van Haaren, Harry <harry.van.haa...@intel.com>
Cc: Burakov, Anatoly <anatoly.bura...@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] eal: support using 0 as coremask for no-
affinitization

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 05:22:25PM +0000, Van Haaren, Harry wrote:
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From: Burakov, Anatoly <anatoly.bura...@intel.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 10:53 AM
To: Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richard...@intel.com>; Van Haaren, Harry
<harry.van.haa...@intel.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] eal: support using 0 as coremask for no-
affinitization

On 16-Feb-21 10:46 AM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:36:13AM +0000, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
On 16-Feb-21 9:43 AM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
Allow the user to specify that they don't want any core pinning from
DPDK
by passing in the coremask of 0.
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I haven't checked what happens yet, but down the line we also set affinity
for service cores as well as interrupt thread. what would be the semantics
of those in this particular case? do we want the same ability for service
cores (i.e. pick a non-affinitized core)? And where does interrupt thread
affinitize in this case (presumably, nowhere too)?

I have not checked the service core setup, because a) I forgot about them
and b) I'm not sure how their affinity rules work with respect to the main
lcore mask. On the other hand I did check out that the lcore mask for all
non-pinned threads, or control threads, is the full set of bits as
expected.

/Bruce


+Harry,

I believe service core mask must not overlap with lcore masks, so
presumably using 0 as lcore mask would make it so that any service core
mask will be valid (which is presumably what we want?).

Services cores -S list or -s <mask> *must* overlap with the RTE lcores, EAL
then"steals" the service cores from the application lcores, code that
implements here:
http://git.dpdk.org/dpdk-
stable/tree/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_options.c?h=20.11#n657

Should service cores also have a "just pick a core" parameter?

I'm not sure, depends on what the bigger goal is here.
Assuming we're enabling this for ROLE_RTE threads, then
it would seem to me that ROLE_SERVICE and control threads
would require similar treatment?

Control threads are affinitised to all cores not in the coremask, which
means in this case that they can run anywhere on the system the OS chooses.

Ah ok, fair enough yes.

In case of service cores, it would seem that using service cores with an
empty coremask is just not compatible. I would assume that this
incompatibility already exists when one has a coremask with only one core
already in it.

Yes, correct, it would leave zero lcores for ROLE_RTE, meaning no lcores for 
the application.
A possible solution would be to special case a zero service core mask and apply 
the same
treatment as ROLE_RTE coremask?

Others likely have better ideas - I don't have time to follow DPDK 
threading/pinning topic
closely at the moment.


I don't think it's a good idea to disallow service cores functionality in this case, but i don't have a way to solve this, other than implementing similar 0x0 coremask for service cores and assume it always means "one core affinitized to wherever the OS feels like it". After all, with lcore mask 0x0 we assume user wants one single core only, so following that, one single service core is a valid extrapolation IMO.

Perhaps specifying the number of l/s cores when using 0x0 would be interesting, but IMO unless there's ask for it, i'd rather not overcomplicate things and go with similar semantics for service cores, and just allow a 0x0 coremask that means only one unaffinitized service core will be created.

Thoughts?

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Thanks,
Anatoly

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