On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:00 PM Gavin Hu <gavin...@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jerin,

Hi Gavin,

>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjac...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 5:52 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] eal/arm64: relax the io barrier for
> > aarch64
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:46 PM Gavin Hu <gavin...@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jerin,
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjac...@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:20 PM
> > > > To: Gavin Hu <gavin...@arm.com>
> > > > Cc: dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>; nd <n...@arm.com>; David Marchand
> > > > <david.march...@redhat.com>; tho...@monjalon.net;
> > > > rasl...@mellanox.com; maxime.coque...@redhat.com;
> > > > tiwei....@intel.com; hemant.agra...@nxp.com; jer...@marvell.com;
> > > > Pavan Nikhilesh <pbhagavat...@marvell.com>; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > > > <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; Ruifeng Wang
> > > > <ruifeng.w...@arm.com>; Phil Yang <phil.y...@arm.com>; Joyce Kong
> > > > <joyce.k...@arm.com>; Steve Capper <steve.cap...@arm.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] eal/arm64: relax the io barrier 
> > > > for
> > > > aarch64
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 2:44 PM Gavin Hu <gavin...@arm.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jerin,
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gavin,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we are on the same page with regard to the problem, and the
> > > > situations, thanks for illuminating the historical background of the two
> > > > barriers.
> > > > > About the solution, I added inline comments.
> > > > > > It will be optimization only when if we are changing in the fast 
> > > > > > path.
> > > > > > In the slow path, it does not matter.
> > > > > > I think, the First step should be to use rte_cio_* wherever it is
> > > > > > coherent memory used in _fast path_. I think, Almost every driver
> > > > > > fixed that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not against this patch(changing the slow path to use rte_cio*
> > > > > > from rte_io* and virtio changes associated with that).
> > > > > > If you are taking that patch, pay attention to all the drivers in 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > tree which is using rte_io* for mixed access in slowpath.
> > > > > I see 30+ drivers has calling rte_io* directly or indirectly through
> > > > rte_write/read*.
> > > > > It is hard for me to figure out all the mixed accesses in these 
> > > > > drivers, and
> > > > as you said, it makes no sense to change the _slow path_.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about we keep the old rte_io as is, and introduce 'fast path' 
> > > > > version
> > > > of rte_io for new code use?
> > > > > Then in future, we may merge the two?
> > > > > Another reason about this proposal is maybe there is rte_io calling in
> > the
> > > > fast path, but they are not mixed accesses and rte_cio is not suitable.
> > > >
> > > > Could you share more details about the case where fastpath + rte_io
> > > > needed + rte_cio is not suitable?
> > >
> > > Here is an example for i40e, in the fast path, but only a pure io memory
> > access.
> > >
> > https://code.dpdk.org/dpdk/v19.11/source/drivers/net/i40e/i40e_rxtx.c#L12
> > 08
> >
> > Yes. That's a performance issue.
> >
> > It could be changed to following for the fix that works on x86, arm64
> > with existing infra.
> >
> > From:
> > I40E_PCI_REG_WRITE()
> >
> > to:
> >
> > rte_cio_wmb()
> > I40E_PCI_REG_WRITE_RELAXED()
> Yes, this is correct, I will submit a new patch for this.
> This is an example out of all the cases that I must fix before relaxing the 
> rte_io barriers.
> My plan is as follows, any comments are welcome!
> 1. replace rte_*mb and rte_io_*mb with rte_cio_*mb where applicable in the 
> fastpath, this is an optimization, as the barriers are relaxed.
> 2. replace all the rte_io_*mb with rte_cio_*mb where applicable in the 
> slowpath and control path
> 3. until *all* the occurrences in the step 1 and 2 are done, then this path 
> can be re-activated.
>
> Please advise if the above approach works from your viewpoint.

I would prefer to have ONLY the step (1) and add a note for the same
in  https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/prog_guide/perf_opt_guidelines.html
as documentation reference.


> Maybe I will stop at step 1, step 2 and 3 are not necessary as they are not 
> in the fastpath?

Yup.

>
> >
> > >
> > > I wanted two variants of rte_io, because also x86 requires two as 
> > > indicated
> > here, one for no-WC and another for WC.
> > > http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/20191204151916.12607-1-
> > xiaoyun...@intel.com/T/#ea8bb1b4a378ab09baedbf95b4542bcb92f4a396f
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > But as the case in i40e, we must pay attention to where rte_cio 
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > missing but rescued by old rte_io(but not by new rte_io).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >

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