On 14-Nov-19 8:12 AM, Venumadhav Josyula wrote:
Hi Oliver,Bruce,

  * we were using --SOCKET-MEM Eal flag.
  * We did not wanted to avoid going back to legacy mode.
  * we also wanted to avoid 1G huge-pages.

Thanks for your inputs.

Hi Anatoly,

We were using vfio with iommu, but by default it s iova-mode=pa, after changing to iova-mode=va via EAL it kind of helped us to bring down allocation time(s) for mempools drastically. The time taken was brought from ~4.4 sec to 0.165254 sec.

Thanks and regards
Venu

That's great to hear.

As a final note, --socket-mem is no longer necessary, because 18.11 will allocate memory as needed. It is however still advisable to use it if you see yourself end up in a situation where the runtime allocation could conceivably fail (such as if you have other applications running on your system, and DPDK has to compete for hugepage memory).

I would also suggest using --limit-mem if you desire to limit the maximum amount of memory DPDK will be able to allocate. This will make DPDK behave similarly to older releases in that it will not attempt to allocate more memory than you allow it.



On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 at 22:56, Burakov, Anatoly <anatoly.bura...@intel.com <mailto:anatoly.bura...@intel.com>> wrote:

    On 13-Nov-19 9:19 AM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
     > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:37:57AM +0530, Venumadhav Josyula wrote:
     >> Hi ,
     >> We are using 'rte_mempool_create' for allocation of flow memory.
    This has
     >> been there for a while. We just migrated to dpdk-18.11 from
    dpdk-17.05. Now
     >> here is problem statement
     >>
     >> Problem statement :
     >> In new dpdk ( 18.11 ), the 'rte_mempool_create' take
    approximately ~4.4 sec
     >> for allocation compared to older dpdk (17.05). We have som 8-9
    mempools for
     >> our entire product. We do upfront allocation for all of them (
    i.e. when
     >> dpdk application is coming up). Our application is run to
    completion model.
     >>
     >> Questions:-
     >> i)  is that acceptable / has anybody seen such a thing ?
     >> ii) What has changed between two dpdk versions ( 18.11 v/s 17.05
    ) from
     >> memory perspective ?
     >>
     >> Any pointer are welcome.
     >>
     > Hi,
     >
     > from 17.05 to 18.11 there was a change in default memory model
    for DPDK. In
     > 17.05 all DPDK memory was allocated statically upfront and that
    used for
     > the memory pools. With 18.11, no large blocks of memory are
    allocated at
     > init time, instead the memory is requested from the kernel as it
    is needed
     > by the app. This will make the initial startup of an app faster,
    but the
     > allocation of new objects like mempools slower, and it could be
    this you
     > are seeing.
     >
     > Some things to try:
     > 1. Use "--socket-mem" EAL flag to do an upfront allocation of
    memory for use
     > by your memory pools and see if it improves things.
     > 2. Try using "--legacy-mem" flag to revert to the old memory model.
     >
     > Regards,
     > /Bruce
     >

    I would also add to this the fact that the mempool will, by default,
    attempt to allocate IOVA-contiguous memory, with a fallback to non-IOVA
    contiguous memory whenever getting IOVA-contiguous memory isn't
    possible.

    If you are running in IOVA as PA mode (such as would be the case if you
    are using igb_uio kernel driver), then, since it is now impossible to
    preallocate large PA-contiguous chunks in advance, what will likely
    happen in this case is, mempool will try to allocate IOVA-contiguous
    memory, fail and retry with non-IOVA contiguous memory (essentially
    allocating memory twice). For large mempools (or large number of
    mempools) that can take a bit of time.

    The obvious workaround is using VFIO and IOVA as VA mode. This will
    cause the allocator to be able to get IOVA-contiguous memory at the
    outset, and allocation will complete faster.

    The other two alternatives, already suggested in this thread by Bruce
    and Olivier, are:

    1) use bigger page sizes (such as 1G)
    2) use legacy mode (and lose out on all of the benefits provided by the
    new memory model)

    The recommended solution is to use VFIO/IOMMU, and IOVA as VA mode.

-- Thanks,
    Anatoly



--
Thanks,
Anatoly

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