27/03/2019 00:43, Jeff Shaw:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:00:49AM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > 26/03/2019 23:34, Jeff Shaw:
> > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:23:50PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > 26/03/2019 22:54, Jeff Shaw:
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:47:54PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > > > 26/03/2019 22:14, Jeff Shaw:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 09:52:57PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > > > > > Even better would be to get it as a dependency outside of DPDK.
> > > > > > > > Where this code come from?
> > > > > > > > How other projects on Windows get it?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It comes from FreeBSD 12.0, specifically
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/releng/12.0/sys/sys/queue.h
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It has been modified such that only the parts used by DPDK (i.e. 
> > > > > > > TAILQ) are
> > > > > > > implemented. The other stuff has been deleted. Windows does not 
> > > > > > > have sys/queue.h,
> > > > > > > so we reproduce it here.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Would it better to have this as a dependency outside of DPDK? I 
> > > > > > > think pulling a file
> > > > > > > from the internet and applying a patch (where we'd have to 
> > > > > > > maintain a patch file
> > > > > > > inside of DPDK's repo anyway) would be overkill when we just need 
> > > > > > > a few lines of
> > > > > > > code that will change very infrequently.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We already try to get the libbsd dependency on Linux.
> > > > > > Why not mandate libbsd for Windows?
> > > > > > It has this header file and a lot more:
> > > > > >     
> > > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libbsd/libbsd/blob/master/include/bsd/sys/queue.h
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Relying on libbsd may avoid copying other files for Windows port.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I like that idea, though it doesn't look like libbsd builds on 
> > > > > Windows, do you
> > > > > know of a Windows version or one that doesn't depend on autotools to 
> > > > > build?
> > > > 
> > > > It seems libbsd is not packaged for Windows.
> > > > May be worth to ask opinions to libbsd maintainers.
> > > > 
> > > > Please could you list which other headers are required for the Windows 
> > > > port?
> > > 
> > > For helloworld the only one is sys/queue.h.
> > > 
> > > The dpdk-draft-windows repo has at least these (non-empty) ones:
> > >   dirent.h
> > >   getopt.h
> > >   net/ethernet.h
> > >   net/socket.h
> > >   netinet/in.h
> > >   netinet/tcp.h
> > >   pthread.h
> > >   rand48.h
> > >   sched.h
> > >   sys/_iovec.h
> > >   sys/_sockaddr_storage.h
> > >   sys/_termios.h
> > >   sys/_types.h
> > >   sys/cdefs.h
> > >   sys/mman.h
> > >   sys/netbsd/queue.h
> > >   sys/queue.h
> > >   sys/sysctl.h
> > >   syslog.h
> > >   termios.h
> > >   unistd.h
> > > 
> > > There will likely be more as more libraries are identified with 
> > > dependencies on UNIX-like
> > > headers.
> > 
> > I would like we find a good solution for these headers.
> 
> I agree. I think the EAL is supposed to do this, however the current 
> implementation generally
> assums a UNIX OS under the EAL. The libbsd might be a possiblity.

Yes, EAL is supposed to be the layer hiding the OS specifics.
It would be interesting to check how much libbsd may help EAL.

> > How other cross-platform projects are getting such dependencies?
> 
> One example is Python. I just briefly reviewed the code and they go through 
> great lengths to
> abstract the OS and implement custom, OS independent layers wherever required 
> (e.g. sockets,
> getopt). See Modules/posixmodule.c for a 14K LOC example.
> 
> Another example is Nginx. The underlying OS is always abstracted with 
> disparate implementations
> for, e.g. unix & windows. See src/os/unix and src/os/win32. An example is the 
> "socket()" call
> on unix, nginx "core" would call "ngx_socket()" which is a macro that is 
> defined to use
> "WSASocketW" on windows, and "socket" on unix.

Yes we may need to introduce more wrappers.

> > Is Cygwin a solution?
> 
> I think the goal is to be a native Windows application.

Yes


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