These sound interesting. Answers below: On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 20:15, Griselda Cuevas <g...@apache.org> wrote: > IDEAS: > - Contact PMCs directly
I sort of did this by sending the past two emails to pmcs@ which BCCs every PMC private@ list. Are you suggesting personalized messages to PMCs? Contacting them through their dev@ lists? Choosing some random subset to contact directly to try and start a conversation? > - Reach out to ASF teams such as conferences, infra, ponymail, kibble, etc. > and see if they could use the help > - Propose projects for D&I for example, build our website > - Perhaps also defining a project to revamp the ASF website > - Think about localization as a type of project and encourage projects to > do it These all sound useful for gathering project ideas, though they also need mentors to go with them. I'm not sure if this is a chicken/egg problem here where potential mentors shy away from volunteering due to a lack of project ideas, or if the project ideas are all there, but nobody has time or desire to mentor. Personally, I've usually been more on the side of lacking project ideas that I can effectively mentor due to my historic lack of ability to delegate development tasks (being a PM/PO seems fairly complicated to me outside any project I'm intimately familiar with), though I've also considered applying to mentor here due to a lack of volunteers (I've avoided applying so far as to not create a conflict of interest when approving mentors/projects, particularly if we had more applications than availability). > - Promote the opportunity in the members list but with a list of ideas so > people get inspired This seems like an interesting idea. I worry a bit, though, that at least 99+% of the members are already subscribed to at least one private@ PMC mailing list (almost every ASF Member started off as a PMC Member of one or more projects here). Perhaps those emails are too spread out for any discussion to take place, and therefore a list like members@ would have more interaction? > - Reach out to the incubator and see if any of the podling could use the > help This seems like it could help. I wouldn't prescribe any particular policy, but I'd imagine that any Podlings that are actively mentoring people via GSoC or Outreachy shows a fairly mature community which aids in graduating to a top level project. > - Create cohorts by roles, e.g. build a taskforce of tech-writers or > designers interested in mentoring outreachy interns despite of the project > they will work on. This idea is to solve for projects that would benefit > from design or tech writers for they don't have these folks in their PMCs > so they can't mentor. This is probably my favorite idea so far! This sounds especially useful since it seems easier to recruit interns for web development and more creative fields. I can strongly empathize with the idea that some PMCs are lacking in certain areas (like graphic design, web design, documentation) that simply don't have the expertise to improve that. For example, I don't think anyone in the Logging PMC are designers, so it would be difficult for any of us to mentor a graphic artist or web designer to overhaul our website or similar design tasks. That expertise, though, is obviously not lacking at the ASF entirely as there are several projects here with very nice websites and documentation, some of which I've seen the tooling promoted here at D&I in the past (I think it might've been from Airflow?). > - Promote in communications about ApacheCon(?) > - Promote in the ASF Newsletter These sound useful, though I'm not sure what to do about either. -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
