Thanks for answering, appreciate it greatly. However, isn't the "ramp into ASF" more of an "equality in opportunity" than "equality of outcome", the latter being (IIUIC) is the definition of Equity? And that we since day one haven't care about your background to contribute, isn't the "opportunity" aspect already covered?
Cheers On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:12 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote: > Thank you for the clear question. I think it is well and thoughtfully > phrased. > > An example from everyday life where I live is that sidewalks are generally > expected to have adequate ramps for persons using wheelchairs to cross > streets. > > For me, working in open source and being recognized for my contributions is > a great privilege, a longstanding dream that I was lucky enough to find a > path into (as a middle age cis white male with a PhD in a lucrative > discipline). I would like to share that privilege with many different sorts > of people, particularly those with fewer advantages. That is one outcome I > have in mind. I hope this shows an example of how D & E & I are related. > > I see the work of this list & group to include the search for what are the > undiscovered things analogous to "ramps". Also to gather the evidence > needed to communicate these discoveries to others. I think the Outreachy > project is a great example. Perhaps you would be interested in also helping > with that? > > Kenn > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:36 PM Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: > > > Since my question was left unanswered, I would like to bring it up again. > > > > Since D&I now seems to get extended with "Equity", I would like to get > > answered what is "Equity" in the scope of the ASF? > > > > As I am reading up on the subject, it always comes back to a "GET" for a > > group or an individual. The fence analogy is touted, so that everyone get > > to see (mind you the problem with the paying vs non-paying viewers) is > > about "get an opportunity to see", receiving something. > > > > I have always viewed the ASF as a place to "GIVE". I have an opportunity > to > > "give contributions" to others, not a matter of what I "GET", which is > > largely a function of how I amalgamize contributions of others to my own > > life and career. > > > > What am I missing? What is the "Outcome" for a person or a group of > people, > > that the "Equity" argument is trying to address, in the ASF context? > > > > Thanks > > >
