I realize I’m not a committer and maybe I shouldn’t express an opinion. 
Apologies in advance if this is inappropriate. However as someone who has gone 
through the pain of trying to install, learn, and use ctakes; I strongly agree 
with Sean. I don’t inject myself into the situation lightly or to “vent”. I 
have been in software development since 1996 and a lot of that time in medical 
projects and using various open source frameworks like Spring, Seam, Hibernate, 
etc. Sean is right.

Jeff

On Dec 6, 2016, 10:00 AM -0500, Pei Chen <pei.c...@wiredinformatics.com>, wrote:
> Considering the amount of time since the release was created, we should not 
> let any pending Jira’s or features hold up a release.
> I suggest just we mark anything that hasn’t been fixed in Jira into the next 
> release and push forward- I’ll volunteer to do that right now.
> In the past, the documentation on the website also shouldn’t hold up a 
> release either.
>
> > On Dec 6, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Finan, Sean <sean.fi...@childrens.harvard.edu> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Murali,
> >
> > Before we make an rc, we must go through the list of currently open tars 
> > and requests. SOP. A list needs to be compiled of what should be closed as 
> > fixed or n/a plus another list of outstanding bugs that need to be dealt 
> > with and an estimate of effort. Then we should try to gather volunteers to 
> > handle said bugs. Can you take care of compiling those lists? I did this 
> > many months ago when rc 3.2.3 came up, and there were items on which no 
> > movement was made. If you can find my email that might be one place to 
> > start.
> >
> > The primary takeaways from the hackathon were, not surprisingly:
> > 1. Installation of cTAKES is not as straightforward as we believe, and
> > 2. Getting started with cTAKES is extremely difficult (no good starting 
> > point) and scares off a large percentage of people who try.
> > 3. Customization is next to impossible without diving into the code, which 
> > is more time consuming than anyone can stand.
> >
> > All can be handled best by short and simple GUI tools and some "cTAKES for 
> > Beginners" documentation. We have some documentation that was used for the 
> > Hackathon that needs to be modified a bit, then posted on the main cTAKES 
> > website.
> >
> > In my opinion these items should be worked upon before creating another 
> > release, otherwise the release is not as useful as it could be. I have 
> > started work on a simple pipeline builder gui that creates simple html or 
> > text output. I will check it into trunk soon, but as new functionality 
> > community testing will be required before a release.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Murali Minnah [mailto:mmin...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 1:26 PM
> > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > Subject: cTAKES - 3.2.3 release
> >
> > I wanted to check to see if there are objections to creating a 3.2.3 tag of 
> > trunk now to prepare for a 3.2.3-rc1?
> >
> > Any comments from the participants/organizers on the success/lessons learnt 
> > from the "hackathon" that the community can benefit from?
> >
> > Best,
> > Murali
>

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