Yeah, that was my question since I was aware of the heavy list of packages
use by express was wondering any red flags that license check catch and
what was the outcome of further investigation.

I just also did a quick review and no red flags I saw. But again i'm not a
lawyer :-)


On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:30 PM Tim Barham <tim.bar...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Oh, regarding the legal aspect...
>
> I can 'coho check-license', and didn't encounter any issues. It flagged
> two packages under express:
>
> * 'ms' (a millisecond conversion utility) which has no license file or
> license entry in package.json, but on investigation is released under the
> MIT license (in the README).
> * 'inherits', which is released under the ISC license (which a lot of our
> dependencies are - we just haven't added it to the acceptable license list).
>
> So I feel ok about that aspect. Most of those 43 modules are actually,
> technically, part of Express (or very closely related to it).
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Barham
> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 7:15 PM
> To: 'dev@cordova.apache.org' <dev@cordova.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] cordova-serve 0.2.0 release
>
> Yeah... This is a philosophy of the Express guys - they keep packages
> really small, and have more packages. Basically, their philosophy is that
> each package should only define one discrete piece of functionality, in a
> single source file. As soon as that file gets too big or there is a feeling
> that functionality should be extracted into another file, that becomes
> another package.
>
> This results in a lot of packages, but they're all really tiny. Do we
> consider that (the number of packages) a problem?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 6:54 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-serve 0.2.0 release
>
> Tim you realize that by bringing in "express" as a dependency to cordova
> cli you are bringing a 43 other npm packages?
>
> Did you or your team did a quick assessment on how healthy legally
> speaking on the complete set of dependencies?
> ⛄  $ npm install express 1>/dev/null && find node_modules/express | grep
> package.json | wc -l
>       43
>
> I would also be concern about size, we had problems in the past where
> dependencies includes fixtures and this added considerable file size to
> cordova-cli I check and it's small 1.7mb, so no problem there.
>
> ⛄  $ du -sh node_modules/express/
> 1.7M node_modules/express/
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:29 PM Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'd rather we bump the major and get out of 0.x.x land.
> > On Oct 5, 2015 9:58 AM, "Tim Barham" <tim.bar...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If the version is 0.x.x, then bumping the minor version is treated
> > > as a breaking change (by npm/semver) - the idea is that until
> > > version 1.0.0, things are still in flux.
> > >
> > > That said, I'm happy to call it 1.0.0 if that's preferable.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 9:01 AM
> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-serve 0.2.0 release
> > >
> > > Why not 1.0.0 if it is breaking
> > > On Oct 4, 2015 5:22 PM, "Tim Barham" <tim.bar...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all... Yesterday I submitted a PR that was a bit of a rework to
> > > > cordova-serve - previously it had essentially been a direct port
> > > > of what was in cordova-lib's 'serve' command and cordova-browser,
> > > > with a couple of hooks to customize functionality. Yesterday's PR
> > > > changes it to use ExpressJS for the grunt-work (which simplifies
> > > > the code a lot), and removes those hooks in favor of the ability
> > > > to attach Express middleware (a breaking change, which will
> > > > require the next release to be bumped to 0.2.0). If anyone who has
> > > > an opinion about this could take a look and provide feedback, that'd
> be great.
> > > >
> > > > Once I've merged it, I'd like to start a vote thread for an
> > > > updated release of cordova-serve containing this change for a
> > > > couple of
> > reasons:
> > > >
> > > > * I have the corresponding changes for cordova-browser and
> > > > cordova-lib ready to go, but I can't get them in until we release
> > > > the updated cordova-serve module.
> > > > * I have another module that uses cordova-serve that I'd like to
> > > > switch over to the ExpressJS version.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
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