Hey Tim and thanks for your reply! I already looked for flights but i think it’s a bit too short now. Flights from here to america are at about 800€ ( approx. 900$) + a cheap Hotel and i’m over 1.000$ which is unfortunately to expensive for me. Being a member of this e-mail list now helps me a lot to understand whats happening in the background.
If there is a small summary from the face 2 face meeting, i would be happy to get that. Nice Weekend for you all! Tammo Am [DATE] schrieb "Tim Barham" <[ADDRESS]>: >Thanks for this info, Tammo - this is all great stuff, and it sounds like the >German Cordova community owes you a lot! I have a couple of comments: > >1. In the Cordova community (or any Apache community), nobody should consider >themselves a small person :). Individual contributions are what Apache >projects are all about (or should be). While some of us might have >microsoft.com or intel.com or adobe.com email addresses, in the long run our >contributions are no more important than anybody else's (we just have the good >fortune of doing it for our day job :) ). > >2. I know this was already mentioned by Julio, but it seems to me you would >definitely be welcome at the face 2 face meeting if you felt it might be of >benefit. It sounds to me like it would be a great opportunity if you could >make it. > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tammo Schimanski [mailto:tammo.schiman...@cordova.de] >Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 8:17 PM >To: dev@cordova.apache.org >Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? > >Hello to all of you from Germany, >i never wrote an e-mail to this list before but i want to tell you something >about the situation over here. > >I started developing applications with Cordova two years ago. It wasn’t easy >to understand how Cordova works and how it has to be used. The docs didn’t >help me enough so that i had to spend many hours in watching video tutorials >on youtube and read many articles about the cordova workflow. > >After i developed applications for over a year, i decided to found a german >community which helps users who feel like i felt a year ago. At the End of >2014 i wrote e-mails to apache, registered domains and invested many hours in >research and writing tutorials, blog articles and so on. Down to the present >day the main Tutorials (iOS & Android) were viewed over 40.000 times. We have >about 800 visits a day and are helping all people with their questions inside >the board. Stackoverflow is also a great way to help people but not all german >developers are able to ask a question in english (although you might thought >that they are). > >My target ever was to help people who are sitting in front of their computers >and thinking „hey… why aren’t you working cordova“ or „why doesn’t it work >like expected“? In spring 2015 my colleague and i decided to make all a bit >more professional. We weren’t satisfied by the website because all was a bit >heavy to find (Tutorials etc.) and it was not state of the art. Again: E-Mails >to apache, registered a new domain and now we’re starting a big project under >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.cordova.de&data=01%7c01%7cTBARHAM%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c92b01a5e6bba44c1208608d2af91e9ab%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=DWV2Gp%2btg2ekG6MvC1Ra9IMfFh3ceDWQUwjrRFAjaXM%3d > (first look for you: >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.cordova.de%2fdev&data=01%7c01%7cTBARHAM%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c92b01a5e6bba44c1208608d2af91e9ab%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=AX4broDgZmgkyx6ljiVci1OTd%2fMRkZXM7KqK3ECA%2bzc%3d). > I had to rewrite all tutorials, because its still our aim to make it >understandable and clear for everyone! Till now we spent already over 250 >hours together for the new project - but it is no problem: We love cordova! >The Project will start at the end of September this year. Cordova is a >possibility for companys creating a new branch. Every websitedeveloper is able >to develop applications with Cordova - but not every Developer knows this. We >want to spread cordova to every developer inside Germany! > >So yes, why am i writing you this all? I think, in comparison to you i’m a >small person. If i see all the people here getting e-mails to >@https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=01%7c01%7cTBARHAM%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c92b01a5e6bba44c1208608d2af91e9ab%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TkAyBoWRDD87phXTuwk5Ut4kRD1pf9yEqaKc0OoZ2Rs%3d, > >@https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=intel.com&data=01%7c01%7cTBARHAM%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c92b01a5e6bba44c1208608d2af91e9ab%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3ZP1F9eBjoU68%2bRDamnegwZ3kszlp%2baOveRcsDlyIVI%3d > and so on…yes, i’m a small person. I just want to let you know, that if we >can do anything from the other side of the big pond: Please let us know - >we’re here, waiting for your instructions :-). > >I don’t know if this „Cordova face to face meeting“ is open for all but my >colleague and i thought about coming to that meeting. Only because we’re >interested into getting a deeper look into things and because we both want to >get better and better. The better we get, the better we can help the users in >understanding cordova. > >Belonging to the topic, Stackoverflow, frustration etc. - i understand Jesse >Monroy. A big problem is that in many cases you just can post links „look >here“ „read this“ etc. and if you give a detailed answer, you’ll never hear >something again from that user like „worked for me“ or „no this doesn’t work“. >Thats why we also created a „first steps in cordova“ guide on our new website >in which all mistakes which can be done are explained. > >Okay so… at least, sorry if something is unclear or understandable. I hope >that it was at least a little bit interesting for you to get some feedback >from Germany. > >Greetings from >Tammo Schimanski > > >E-Mail: tammo.schiman...@cordova.de >Phone / Whatsapp: + 49 162 40 98 169 > > > > > >Am [DATE] schrieb "julio cesar sanchez" <[ADDRESS]>: > >>I would like to bring this topic back because I've seen two things >>recently that worried me >> >>First one on the google group "Frustration in the forum" >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgroups >>.google.com%2fforum%2f%23!topic%2fphonegap%2fD7ydf_hNq-w&data=01%7c01%7 >>cTBARHAM%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c92b01a5e6bba44c1208608d2af91e9ab%7c >>72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1Oi55qjHPNIa93Qwhn%2fglWTziW >>1vY8ZcKxp8M3JHRZ4%3d >> >>Second one, increasing number of unanswered questions on stackoverflow >>(from >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstackov >>erflow.com%2ftags%2fcordova%2ftopusers&data=01%7c01%7cTBARHAM%40064d.mg >>d.microsoft.com%7c92b01a5e6bba44c1208608d2af91e9ab%7c72f988bf86f141af91 >>ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ePFNX11aAOUF%2frRpMUGvDlMuuVNxbzVoqRb07hTzGHM% >>3d) >> >>cordova Questions >>259 Last 7 Days 79.9% unanswered >>1,172 Last 30 Days 75.7% unanswered >>37,119 All Time 46.4% unanswered >> >> >>I think it's related with the "Frustration in the forum", a lot of >>questions are from newbiews and low quality so nobody answer them (not >>sure if this happens with other tags or just with cordova) > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
