On Fri, 30 Oct 2026 at 22:09, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 30, 2026, 17:44 sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2026 at 13:18, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Oct 30, 2026, at 8:40 AM, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I’ve pushed it out, and everything seems to be working. A few
> > comments:
> > > >
> > > > 1) I added toggles (per PMC, and on the projects.html page) to show
> > retired projects.
> > > > 2) There’s some cache-buster stuff going on, because I couldn’t get
> > the updated js/css to load
> > > > 3) I’ve committed the .json files to svn. This should probably be a
> > temporary measure, until we’re sure that the cronjobs are working
> > correctly. I don’t think we want generated files in svn.
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, the “what’s new” in my original message should be
> > accurate.
> > > >
> > > > https://projects.apache.org/chooser.html is still not linked
> > anywhere. I’ll add that in once we’ve had some actual new folks run through
> > it and deem it useful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Still to do - find projects that are still dutifully putting their
> > releases into their DOAP files, and tell them they don’t need to do that
> > any more.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as I can tell, that’s these:
> > >
> > > Accumulo, Ant (Ant, AntUnit, CycloneDX, Ivy, Props), APR, Arrow,
> > > Axis2, Causeway, Cayenne, Commons (Daemon, Numbers, RNG, Statistics),
> > > Cordova, Daffodil, FreeMarker, Hadoop, HTTP Server, Hudi, Iceberg,
> > > Impala, IoTDB, Libcloud, Lucene, ManifoldCF, Maven, NetBeans, Nutch,
> > > OFBiz, OpenMeetings, OpenNLP, OpenOffice, PDFBox, Pinot, PLC4X,
> > > Polaris, Rivet (Tcl), Solr, Storm, Subversion, Thrift, Tika, Tomcat,
> > > TsFile, Unomi, YuniKorn, Zeppelin
> >
> > I wonder if it would now make sense to centralize the DOAPs, rather
> > than having them scattered around in project areas where they
> > sometimes get lost when repos and websites are re-arranged?
> >
> > In the past, I know projects wanted to keep DOAPs alongside their
> > code, because of the need to keep DOAPs updated.
> > But that is no longer a consideration.
> >
> > Sebb
> >
>
> We certainly could, but I'm not sure that they're needed at all anymore.
> I've talked with a handful of these projects and they're updating these
> files because they were told they were supposed to (mostly by me). But if
> projects.a.o isn't using them anymore, I'd like to understand if they feel
> there's any other value to them.
>
> I'll reach out to these projects next week, and if they tell me that
> there's any value to the files beyond the projects site, then we can figure
> out how to proceed at that point, and centralizing them definitely seems
> like the right approach in that case.

I had not realised that ATR metadata included categories and
programming languages etc as per the DOAPs.
In which case I agree, the DOAPs could be dropped if not otherwise needed.

However, it requires a login to even view the data.
Also the DOAPs include the data in a single file, whereas it looks
like ATR only exposes the data via the HTML page.

Sebb

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