On 12/20/23 07:26, Xuanwo wrote:
I did some research on discourse and found that it doesn't work as it described.
Alought it can receive and create new topics from mailing list, but it can't
send mails to mailing list when posts or replies created at discourse. This
will make it a possible read-only archives of our mailing list, or just another
platforms for discussion.
So:
**For read-only archives**
The read-only archives will be like: https://rubytalk.org/. Users need to reply
by email instead.
**For another new platform**
I don't think another new platform is a good idea. Personally, I'd rather not
have to monitor an additional platform beyond the mailing list, GitHub, and
Discord.
**Other solutions?**
We could also consider hosting a modern frontend for our mailing list, similar
to Hyperkitty. For instance, take a look at:
https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/ruby-t...@ml.ruby-lang.org/
We have continuously looked into HyperKitty for mailing lists, dating as
far back as 2016, and it does not scale for our use - it failed quite
miserably in fact, which is how Pony Mail came to be. Our current
archive does allow for interacting with lists through it, so I am
curious as to what people are looking for here?
**Or just keep AS-IS**
We can stick to our current communication methods if other options don't offer
significant benefits.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023, at 00:31, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Open an INFRA ticket on Jira. Thats one of the best ways to get answers.
The infra user list doesn’t appear to be private. It requires a
subscription like most mailing lists to post. See
https://infra.apache.org/contact.html
On Dec 19, 2023, at 5:38 AM, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bowen,
Thanks for your advice! I want to involve INFRA in the first place,
but IIRC user@infra.a.o is private.
Shall we invite INFRA members to this thread, or we start a new thread
on user@infra.a.o?
Best,
tison.
<rbo...@rcbowen.com> 于2023年12月19日周二 21:28写道：
On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 19:23 +0800, tison wrote:
+cc comdev
Maybe you will be intested in this new type communication.
I would encourage you to take this up with Infra. I am certain that
this has come up before, and that Infra has already done some research
into Discourse, not only in terms of hosting it for projects, but for
the Foundation as a whole, and have thoughts about the sustainability
of doing this in individual VMs vs some kind of service provider. I
don't know what their advice will be, but they are definitely the right
folks to ask for that advice.
Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> 于2023年12月19日周二 19:15写道：
Discourse will provide us an incoming email address. All email
sent to
this address will become a post in discourse. We need to add this
address into the dev@o.a.o's subcriber list.
This is talking about Discourse SaaS which cost about $100 ($50 if
we have non-profit discount).
If we can request a vm from ASF Infra, we will need:
- VM with 4C8G
- Postgresql
- A SMTP account to send mails
- A domain like discuss.opendal.apache.org
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, at 18:55, Xuanwo wrote:
Does it need any configuration from the mailing list part,
i.e.,
involve INFRA setup?
Discourse will provide us an incoming email address. All email
sent to
this address will become a post in discourse. We need to add this
address into the dev@o.a.o's subcriber list.
No another setup needed, AFAIK.
We need some test and demo to make sure everything works as
expected.
At the time of writing, I don't know how to do that.
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, at 18:19, tison wrote:
called mailing list mode
Does it need any configuration from the mailing list part,
i.e.,
involve INFRA setup?
I don't know how this happen but as long as we have a readable
copy on
the dev@ mailing list, other integration as view can be OK.
Best,
tison.
Jun Ouyang <ouyangjun1...@gmail.com> 于2023年12月19日周二 18:16写道：
Hi xuanwo:
That’s great! I strongly agree with this change. But I have a
concern about
markdown support sync to Maillist, It seems will cause more
bad experiences
for Maillist users.
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*Thanks,*
*Jun Ouyang*
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 17:36 Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org>
wrote:
Hi, all opendal community members
I'm thinking about hosting discourse as an alternative way
for mailing
list.
Discourse has a feature called mailing list mode. After
enabling this
feature, we will sync every post between our mailling list
and discourse.
- Users can create/reply to posts created in discourse via
email.
- Users can create/reply to posts send by email in
discourse.
- Users can search all posts in discourse.
By adding this new alternative, I can see the following
benefits:
- All discussion still happen and archived on mailing list
(here).
- Users like mailing list can still uses mailing list
without any change.
- Users like forums can use discourse instead.
- Users don't need to subscribe the email list first before
asking
questions.
- Markdown support, Full-text search support, better
UI/UX...
What do you think? Do you want this alternative?
Xuanwo
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