Shane and Rich, All of that
> On Oct 6, 2023, at 05:49, rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: > > All of this. Hopefully we can focus on actual achievable goals, and not > spend the entire time falling down philosophical rabbit holes. I > definitely want to be part of this conversation. I very much want Brian > to be part of it too, and we need to be sure not to make sweeping > decisions without bringing Brian and our Constantia friends in on it. > But I think that we can draw some high-level proposal diagrams. > > Specifically, I would like to work on turning the community.a.o site > map into more of a tree and less of a maze. I have some concrete plans, > but each time I start digging into it I get lost in the maze and end up > not doing much actual writing. It would be nice to fix that this week. > > --Rich > > On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 23:37 -0400, Shane Curcuru wrote: >> A number of us have been working on some very specific community >> documentation improvements over the past year, and it would be great >> to >> find time in Halifax to share ideas and energize each other. Who's >> going to be there, when might you want to work on this, and what are >> your ideas? >> >> Besides all sorts of editing pages to really focus on writing for the >> average reader (often newcomers on community.a.o pages), I really >> wonder >> about holistic improvements to information architecture, especially >> ones >> that normalize and canonicalize all the processes around the ASF way. >> Rich and others have already started great contributor ladder stuff, >> and >> also eliminating or consolidating duplicate pages. >> >> One issue I struggle with strategically is: where should different >> content live? On one hand, we want to focus on the reader, and meet >> them with what they need. On the other hand, we have various >> communities/officers inside the ASF who either set policy, or perhaps >> just provide advice and best practices. Where should different >> policies >> - and documentation thereof - live? >> >> I think we need to strive towards documentation bits that can be >> repurposed, or can otherwise serve both as an intro to a whole >> process, >> as well as a more detailed "why" that process came to be. >> >> I also think organizationally, we need to decide what lives where and >> make it easier to keep updated. It often feels like core policies >> and >> strict requirements primarily need to live on /dev (or /legal, >> /foundation/trademarks, infra.a.o, etc.), but that they should be >> shorter, clearer, and more direct about exactly what their policies >> are. >> >> And then much of the why content, and content that helps draw >> newcomers >> into thinking about the bigger picture, should primarily live on >> community.a.o. If people are curious or want to learn about how we >> *think* about communities, come to ComDev. But if existing committers >> just want to know how to vote on a release, go to the appropriate and >> simple /dev page that just describes the process. >> >> I'll be in Halifax thru Wednesday lunchtime, but will mostly be >> speaking >> and thinking about sustainability all Sunday - including at a >> Sustainability BOF in the evening.= >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > Craig L Russell c...@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org