All of this. Hopefully we can focus on actual achievable goals, and not
spend the entire time falling down philosophical rabbit holes. I
definitely want to be part of this conversation. I very much want Brian
to be part of it too, and we need to be sure not to make sweeping
decisions without bringing Brian and our Constantia friends in on it.
But I think that we can draw some high-level proposal diagrams.

Specifically, I would like to work on turning the community.a.o site
map into more of a tree and less of a maze. I have some concrete plans,
but each time I start digging into it I get lost in the maze and end up
not doing much actual writing. It would be nice to fix that this week.

--Rich

On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 23:37 -0400, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> A number of us have been working on some very specific community 
> documentation improvements over the past year, and it would be great
> to 
> find time in Halifax to share ideas and energize each other.  Who's 
> going to be there, when might you want to work on this, and what are 
> your ideas?
> 
> Besides all sorts of editing pages to really focus on writing for the
> average reader (often newcomers on community.a.o pages), I really
> wonder 
> about holistic improvements to information architecture, especially
> ones 
> that normalize and canonicalize all the processes around the ASF way.
> Rich and others have already started great contributor ladder stuff,
> and 
> also eliminating or consolidating duplicate pages.
> 
> One issue I struggle with strategically is: where should different 
> content live?  On one hand, we want to focus on the reader, and meet 
> them with what they need.  On the other hand, we have various 
> communities/officers inside the ASF who either set policy, or perhaps
> just provide advice and best practices.  Where should different
> policies 
> - and documentation thereof - live?
> 
> I think we need to strive towards documentation bits that can be 
> repurposed, or can otherwise serve both as an intro to a whole
> process, 
> as well as a more detailed "why" that process came to be.
> 
> I also think organizationally, we need to decide what lives where and
> make it easier to keep updated.  It often feels like core policies
> and 
> strict requirements primarily need to live on /dev (or /legal, 
> /foundation/trademarks, infra.a.o, etc.), but that they should be 
> shorter, clearer, and more direct about exactly what their policies
> are.
> 
> And then much of the why content, and content that helps draw
> newcomers 
> into thinking about the bigger picture, should primarily live on 
> community.a.o.  If people are curious or want to learn about how we 
> *think* about communities, come to ComDev. But if existing committers
> just want to know how to vote on a release, go to the appropriate and
> simple /dev page that just describes the process.
> 
> I'll be in Halifax thru Wednesday lunchtime, but will mostly be
> speaking 
> and thinking about sustainability all Sunday - including at a 
> Sustainability BOF in the evening.=
> 


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