On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 14:25, Brian Proffitt <b...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Okay, thanks for the update on the two processes. I was not aware of
> them, obviously. I will get the images into that site.

Great, that will save a lot of effort for projects that use this method.

>
> Brian Proffitt
> VP, Marketing & Publicity
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 6:00 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-08-16 11:47, sebb wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 10:19, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> > >>> Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org>:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> > >>>>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt <b...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> All:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
> > >>>>>> in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to 
> > >>>>>> your
> > >>>>>> project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
> > >>>>>> projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
> > >>>>>> event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Logos:
> > >>>>>> https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Event URL:
> > >>>>>> https://communityovercode.org/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thank you!
> > >>>>>> BKP
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://jmeter.apache.org/
> > >>>>> https://commons.apache.org/
> > >>>>> https://hc.apache.org/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> They include a link to the event page:
> > >>>>> https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> > >>>>> with an image such as
> > >>>>> https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ 
> > >>>> which
> > >>>> most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
> > >>>> over code logo as the current event.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
> > >>> checks
> > >>> against the 'current-event' image/link:
> > >>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events
> > >>>
> > >>> (also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.
> > >>>
> > >>> I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
> > >>> Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.
> > >>
> > >> I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the
> > >> conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a
> > >> wider-encompassing name here.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the 
> > >>> first 10
> > >>> projects
> > >>> 6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
> > >>> image (Accumulo)
> > >>> and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).
> > >>>
> > >>> Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event 
> > >>> image/link
> > >>> is used.
> > >>>
> > >>> So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use 
> > >>> apachecon.com/event-images/
> > >>> and it
> > >>> would be simpler to update the current-event images.
> > >>
> > >> In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that
> > >> the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the
> > >> event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is
> > >> quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not
> > >> work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for
> > >> a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address
> > >> these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as
> > >> multiple events occurring at the same time.
> > >
> > > Sites which use the admittedly limited images provided by the
> > > old-style 'current-event' solution will have allowed for this.
> > > Though of course, more sizes could be provided. Also the HTML could
> > > include links to multiple events.
> > > So I don't see those as critical issues.
> >
> > No one is saying these issues are critical, but they _are_ issues
> > nonetheless.
> >
> > >
> > > Projects should not be forced to change unnecessarily.
> >
> > No one is saying projects should be forced, but I am _hoping_ that
> > projects opt for the more configurable option.
> >
> > >
> > > Of course if they wish to use the replacement solution they can do so.
> > > And can be encouraged to do so as part of any site redesign.
> > >
> > > Note that the new solution uses Javascript.
> > > There is no fallback for browsers that don't support Javascript.
> > > This may be a problem for some assistive readers.
> >
> > I don't believe there is any issue at all for assistive readers here.
> > The produced link and image is static once added to the DOM, and has
> > both alt and title elements to help out. If the content were to change
> > based on user events, sure, but for static additions like this, the
> > readers should not have any problem (assuming they were built/updated
> > within the last decade or so).
> >
> > >
> > > Sebb
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The idea behind this was to avoid having to change loads of websites
> > >>>>> before and after every event.
> > >>>>> Instead, the event organisers can change the page content (or add a
> > >>>>> redirect) and the various sized images accordingly.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> By the way, the SVG and PNG versions of the logo look very different -
> > >>>>> is that intentional?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Brian Proffitt
> > >>>>>> VP, Marketing & Publicity
> > >>>>>>
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