Okay, thanks for the update on the two processes. I was not aware of
them, obviously. I will get the images into that site.


Brian Proffitt
VP, Marketing & Publicity

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 6:00 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 2023-08-16 11:47, sebb wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 10:19, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> >>> Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org>:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt <b...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
> >>>>>> in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
> >>>>>> project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
> >>>>>> projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
> >>>>>> event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Logos:
> >>>>>> https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Event URL:
> >>>>>> https://communityovercode.org/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>> BKP
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://jmeter.apache.org/
> >>>>> https://commons.apache.org/
> >>>>> https://hc.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They include a link to the event page:
> >>>>> https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> >>>>> with an image such as
> >>>>> https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
> >>>>
> >>>> There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
> >>>> most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
> >>>> over code logo as the current event.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
> >>> checks
> >>> against the 'current-event' image/link:
> >>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events
> >>>
> >>> (also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )
> >>>
> >>> It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.
> >>>
> >>> I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
> >>> Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.
> >>
> >> I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the
> >> conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a
> >> wider-encompassing name here.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the first 
> >>> 10
> >>> projects
> >>> 6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
> >>> image (Accumulo)
> >>> and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).
> >>>
> >>> Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event 
> >>> image/link
> >>> is used.
> >>>
> >>> So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use 
> >>> apachecon.com/event-images/
> >>> and it
> >>> would be simpler to update the current-event images.
> >>
> >> In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that
> >> the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the
> >> event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is
> >> quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not
> >> work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for
> >> a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address
> >> these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as
> >> multiple events occurring at the same time.
> >
> > Sites which use the admittedly limited images provided by the
> > old-style 'current-event' solution will have allowed for this.
> > Though of course, more sizes could be provided. Also the HTML could
> > include links to multiple events.
> > So I don't see those as critical issues.
>
> No one is saying these issues are critical, but they _are_ issues
> nonetheless.
>
> >
> > Projects should not be forced to change unnecessarily.
>
> No one is saying projects should be forced, but I am _hoping_ that
> projects opt for the more configurable option.
>
> >
> > Of course if they wish to use the replacement solution they can do so.
> > And can be encouraged to do so as part of any site redesign.
> >
> > Note that the new solution uses Javascript.
> > There is no fallback for browsers that don't support Javascript.
> > This may be a problem for some assistive readers.
>
> I don't believe there is any issue at all for assistive readers here.
> The produced link and image is static once added to the DOM, and has
> both alt and title elements to help out. If the content were to change
> based on user events, sure, but for static additions like this, the
> readers should not have any problem (assuming they were built/updated
> within the last decade or so).
>
> >
> > Sebb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The idea behind this was to avoid having to change loads of websites
> >>>>> before and after every event.
> >>>>> Instead, the event organisers can change the page content (or add a
> >>>>> redirect) and the various sized images accordingly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> By the way, the SVG and PNG versions of the logo look very different -
> >>>>> is that intentional?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Brian Proffitt
> >>>>>> VP, Marketing & Publicity
> >>>>>>
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