On 2022-03-03 at 02:40:09 UTC-0500 (Thu, 3 Mar 2022 07:40:09 +0000)
Christofer Dutz <dev@community.apache.org>
is rumored to have said:

> Just thinking out loud ...
>
> The ASF could never be an entity that people could come to looking for 
> commercial support.
> That would just be in conflict with being a non-profit charitable 
> organization.

Perhaps in principle but at least in the US, not in law. Non-profits are able 
to support themselves with commercial operations, although they may need to be 
careful about anti-competitive practices.

Having worked in commercial operations of non-profits a couple of times in my 
life, I would concur that the ASF *SHOULD NEVER* be an entity that people could 
come to looking for commercial support, even if it were in an entirely legal 
way. Paying people to provide support feels tantamount to paying them for 
development. A perfectly good thing for others to do, not the ASF.

> However, we also have this discussion about the endowment from the pinaple 
> funds donation.
> How about having the ASF as it is, was and hopefully will always be, and a 
> second entity that people could come to for commercial support.
> In contrast to the usual external companies, the board of this entity could 
> be linked to the board of the ASF?
> This would ensure that the company is run in line with the values of the ASF.
>
> Please tell me if this is just complete nonsense ;-)

This is akin to Mozilla Corp. and Mozilla Fdn. Not fundamentally nonsense, but 
not really a fit for ASF in my opinion.

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