On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 12:02 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I’m sorry, I do not understand these responses.   I did not mention 
> advertising, only attribution.   I did not mention paying to get listed in 
> the NOTICE.   These negative assumptions discourage my motivation to 
> contribute to these kinds of discussions.
>
> It is my understanding that the employer of a committer almost always holds 
> copyright of the code contributed by that committer.  I do not see anything 
> in the linked license that prohibits anyone from adding their copyright to 
> NOTICE because I thought a copyright was a legal notice.  And plenty of 
> companies that donated the original code are already in NOTICE files.
>
> Please educate me.

I'm glad to provide education.  See
http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#mod-notice

This short section starts with "NOTICE is reserved for a certain
subset of legally required notifications", and ends with "Do not add
anything to NOTICE which is not legally required.".

I believe that this section is clear, but if you have any questions on
the content of this page, I'd encourage you to bring them up on
legal-disc...@apache.org.

> Thanks,
> -Alex

- Sam Ruby

> On 4/19/19, 6:15 AM, "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
>     On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:03 AM Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > > On Apr 19, 2019, at 1:06 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID 
> <mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Lots of NOTICE files give attribution to the pre-Apache project 
> owner.  Why not let other companies add their logo to NOTICE if it is 
> important to them?
>     >
>     > NOTICE has a specific reason for existence as the place where such 
> notices and information that MUST be delivered to the end-user is placed. 
> It's not designed as a catch-all for any "advertising" that someone would 
> like people to see :)
>
>     Just adding a citation to back up Jim's point.  See section 4d of the
>     Apache License:
>
>     
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apache.org%2Flicenses%2FLICENSE-2.0&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7cb64661c0db4c500f4008d6c4c90dcb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636912765171411465&amp;sdata=uJR2ccKwN3JWGJpcC%2Fxq7jNVWy9EernG%2BV9GCWJoCVc%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
>     - Sam Ruby
>
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